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na7ure
05-19-2007, 12:50 PM
Dear Guys,

I am in the verdict to acquire the Ultra-Wide Zoom Lens.

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM vs.
Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4 AT-X Pro DX (Canon)

Which one is better?
Got any sample photos from Tokina & Canon? Please share.

Thank you :?

my4to
05-19-2007, 02:54 PM
never have a change to try out Tokina but read some good reviews online and from user.

below are some pics taken with Canon 10-22,hope this helps :)

1)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/my4to/Landscaape/IMG_2749web.jpg

2)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/my4to/Landscaape/IMG_0121Web.jpg

:)

yannick
05-19-2007, 04:29 PM
EFS 10-22mm USM is a good choice and now getting cheaper, some of my pic took by this lens. The picture quality s really nice and good.

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/532/82155048fo1.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3772/img1478nw3.jpg

ShaolinTiger
05-19-2007, 05:17 PM
The Tokina is great, but the Canon is wider.

If you aren't thinking of going full frame (this is an EF-S only lens) then go for the Canon 10-22mm.

QuickShare
05-19-2007, 06:03 PM
the only downside of canon was no hood included.. any idea how much the cost for the hood alone?..

jayhan
05-19-2007, 08:34 PM
I'd like to add to ST's statement. If you are not gonna go full frame, then by all means also try out SIGMA's alternative : the 10-20mm :)

na7ure
05-20-2007, 01:55 AM
EFS 10-22mm USM is a good choice and now getting cheaper, some of my pic took by this lens. The picture quality s really nice and good.

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/532/82155048fo1.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3772/img1478nw3.jpg

Gee... now you are making me drool on my keyboard. The pix were wonderful.

Second hand price running at what figure then? :?

na7ure
05-20-2007, 01:57 AM
never have a change to try out Tokina but read some good reviews online and from user.

below are some pics taken with Canon 10-22,hope this helps :)

1)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/my4to/Landscaape/IMG_2749web.jpg

2)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/my4to/Landscaape/IMG_0121Web.jpg

:)

Thankz for the info. The pix were really Ultra-Wide man, except there're slight barrel distortions on the 2nd pix huh? :redface:

Any comment on Tokina? or Sigma?

the only downside of canon was no hood included.. any idea how much the cost for the hood alone?..

What? For over 2K, it does not even come with a hood? Even my EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 USM IS also comes with a hood when I bought it new. :P

The Tokina is great, but the Canon is wider.

If you aren't thinking of going full frame (this is an EF-S only lens) then go for the Canon 10-22mm.

Hey ST, thankz for your comment.
Have you tried the Tokina?
According to Hong from YL Camera, the Tokina is a better buy compared to the Canon (I pressumed he was comparing an apple to apple, the price is the factor from his point of view)

But for the price of 2K++ (Canon 10-22mm), is it better to invest onto a 2nd hand 'L' lens then? Currently I am having a 1. Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 USM IS & 2. Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II.

What do you suggest? :)

*Please don't double post - use multi-quote or edit your first reply*

jayhan
05-20-2007, 02:33 AM
I think it depends on what you wanna shoot na7ure.
17-85mm's wide end on the 17mm side is good enough for landscapes in my opinion. Those 10-20/22mm (eithe canon or sigma) gives more distortion and adds dramatic impact to landscapes. These lenses, in my opinion, are merely novelty. If you wanna shoot portraitures, I suggest you save the money for a 70-200 f4 or f2.8L. If you wanna shoot landscapes, then by all means go ahead with the 10-20/22mm range.

QuickShare
05-20-2007, 08:16 AM
What? For over 2K, it does not even come with a hood? Even my EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 USM IS also comes with a hood when I bought it new. :P
i thought only L lens comes with hood? no? :rolleyes:

asmady
05-20-2007, 09:07 AM
the only downside of canon was no hood included.. any idea how much the cost for the hood alone?..

i got the hood from matthew of clik&snap for abt RM100. he gave me that price coz i bought something else also at the time. but i think the price diff is not very much.

na7ure
05-20-2007, 10:31 AM
i got the hood from matthew of clik&snap for abt RM100. he gave me that price coz i bought something else also at the time. but i think the price diff is not very much.

Wah! Another RM100 for the hood. :P

Anyone wanna sell their EF-S 10-22mm? PM me, k? Kekekeke :D

ShaolinTiger
05-20-2007, 01:16 PM
For me? I'd go for 10-20mm Sigma over them all :)

Tokina has excellent build quality, very good colour/contrast and very little distortion.

Personally I find the Tokina and the Canon 10-22mm give quite flat and boring pictures due to almost complete lack of distortion.

Tokina is better price wise, and build quality is definitely better than the Canon, but the 2mm extra on the Canon wins for me.

The difference between 12mm and 10mm is a LOT.

QuickShare
05-20-2007, 01:58 PM
...
The difference between 12mm and 10mm is a LOT.

wow.. these words kicks Tokina out of my wish list! thanks :D

na7ure
05-20-2007, 11:22 PM
Hooray!! Canon would definately be in my WISH List then. :partyon:

That's what I was thinking too, the 2mm difference would definately give the Ultra-Wide photos a booze.

Thank you so much guys. Hope others can able to contribute some photos on their Tokina in this thread as well for comparison. :D

yannick
05-21-2007, 09:42 AM
Gee... now you are making me drool on my keyboard. The pix were wonderful.

Second hand price running at what figure then? :?


A brand new one only rm2200, second hand around rm1800 or rm1900 depend to the condition...so i suggest u buy a new one. :cool:

JackJack
05-21-2007, 11:40 AM
hmm....from wat i read, sigma is better than canon wor:?

yannick
05-21-2007, 05:23 PM
hmm....from wat i read, sigma is better than canon wor:?

jack, try both then choose the one u like. ~_~ trust me...i can borrow my for you to test...for sigma...u pinjam from other. ehehe

na7ure
05-22-2007, 09:11 AM
A brand new one only rm2200, second hand around rm1800 or rm1900 depend to the condition...so i suggest u buy a new one. :cool:

True also. I will start to save some money for the new 10-22mm then. Thankz for the advice. :redface:

jayhan
05-22-2007, 09:39 AM
jack, try both then choose the one u like. ~_~ trust me...i can borrow my for you to test...for sigma...u pinjam from other. ehehe

I think it should be trust your pocket, and choose the one your pocket likes ;)
I've tried and tested both SIGMA and the CANON version of this 10-20/22mm range. End up buying SIGMA, not only becuz its cheaper... but its image quality is better (my personal opinion) for an ultra wide angle lens. Canon's just seem to lack the punch it needs to deliver. But this is just personal opinion of mine.

na7ure
05-22-2007, 02:59 PM
I think it should be trust your pocket, and choose the one your pocket likes ;)
I've tried and tested both SIGMA and the CANON version of this 10-20/22mm range. End up buying SIGMA, not only becuz its cheaper... but its image quality is better (my personal opinion) for an ultra wide angle lens. Canon's just seem to lack the punch it needs to deliver. But this is just personal opinion of mine.

The price another issues we need to look into too. I've yet to try the Sigma lens. Maybe I should take a look at YL Camera's shop too.

Now they are letting go a 10-22mm. Price not significant cheaper too. :P

http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294

yannick
05-22-2007, 06:24 PM
The price another issues we need to look into too. I've yet to try the Sigma lens. Maybe I should take a look at YL Camera's shop too.

Now they are letting go a 10-22mm. Price not significant cheaper too. :P

http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294

Second hand for a EF-S 10-22mm wont drop so much compare to a new one and depend on the condition. If u buy a new one, it still got the second hand value compare to sigma(my opinion). EF-S 10-22mm USM uses 3 aspheric elements and one SD element. It's evident from this (and the price of the lens), that this is no "low end, consumer" type lens. The optical design and mechanical construction of the lens (which uses a ring type USM motor and has full time manual focus) are both high quality. Some have suggested that if it hadn't been an EF-S lens, it might have received the "L" designation, but since it won't fit on a pro level DSLR (EOS 1D series), Canon didn't feel that could give it a "professional" L designation.

na7ure
05-22-2007, 09:49 PM
Second hand for a EF-S 10-22mm wont drop so much compare to a new one and depend on the condition. If u buy a new one, it still got the second hand value compare to sigma(my opinion). EF-S 10-22mm USM uses 3 aspheric elements and one SD element. It's evident from this (and the price of the lens), that this is no "low end, consumer" type lens. The optical design and mechanical construction of the lens (which uses a ring type USM motor and has full time manual focus) are both high quality. Some have suggested that if it hadn't been an EF-S lens, it might have received the "L" designation, but since it won't fit on a pro level DSLR (EOS 1D series), Canon didn't feel that could give it a "professional" L designation.

Most likely is because of the plastic quality that is not so decent.That's why canon can't make it into a 'L' class quality lens. :P

hanuman
05-23-2007, 09:01 AM
Most likely is because of the plastic quality that is not so decent.That's why canon can't make it into a 'L' class quality lens. :P

Not true since it was design inmind for the DSLR that is non full frame. Esample the conversion focal length for a 30D is around 1.6. so in the case of the 10-22 you are actually looking at a 16 - 35 in full frame 35mm like the 5D. And since there us a 17 - 40 L series lense it's only natural to do a 10-22 to suite the non full frame market. My 2 sen lah. :D

na7ure
05-23-2007, 03:46 PM
Not true since it was design inmind for the DSLR that is non full frame. Esample the conversion focal length for a 30D is around 1.6. so in the case of the 10-22 you are actually looking at a 16 - 35 in full frame 35mm like the 5D. And since there us a 17 - 40 L series lense it's only natural to do a 10-22 to suite the non full frame market. My 2 sen lah. :D

You are very true too. I wonder did anyone did any comparison with the 10-22mm vs. 14-30mm L?

I am sure they must have the difference as the price also a lot different too. :?