D700 or D3 ?

[jayhan]

What's your choice? And please dont :smashfreak: me :P

[xandman]

d3 la bro...
u know u want 1! :p

[noruazumi]

If m00lah is not the factor, D3 hands down.
Well, come to think of it, if m00lah is not the factor, 2x D3 and 2x D700. LOL!

[swleong]

so...somebody wants to sell the D300 + 17-55? :)

[jayhan]

sell??
2nd body la.... eeheheh
im looking at D700+70-200mm with D300+17-55mm combo

[sh4hr1n]

D3.. of course.. :D

[orionmystery]

If m00lah is not the factor, D3 hands down.
Well, come to think of it, if m00lah is not the factor, 2x D3 and 2x D700. LOL!

Wrong lah...D300, D3 and just a 40D + MPE and MT24EX specially:P for 1:1 to 5:1 macro

[noordin]

D3 of course.

Someone was selling a 3 week old D3 in the other forum just 2 or 3 days ago. :cool:

[tools4fools]

Image quality should be same. D300 lighter and smaller (plus cheaper). So probably better deal overall.

D3 only if you need extreme speeeeeeed or real rugged construction and don't mind slugging around an emergency0 door stopper...
Or if you want to show off, of course...
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[jameslow]

you are doing wedding photography, always face to low light and crucial lighting condition, if i'm you, i will go for 2XD700 without hesitation.

1)D700+24-70
2)D700+70-200

[zamrudku]

I'll go for D1000





















1 x D700 plus 1x D300 = D1000.

[hotdrive]

D700 - same sensor but cheaper!

:p

[orionmystery]

I'll go for D1000





















1 x D700 plus 1x D300 = D1000.

I disagree....I'd defintely go for D1003:D

[jmaguireokm]

got the $$$$ then get 2XD700 lo :P
OR
you can jump back to the red ring :run_away:

[jayhan]

no thanks.... but no red ring for me. somehow gold rings are better. :P

[zamrudku]

I disagree....I'd defintely go for D1003:D
Hahahaha....D1003. Somehow it's not the same impact saying it here isn't it OM? Better hearing it the first time huh?

[calvin_gsc]

Not the best video to watch for D700 users or prospective buyers... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8tckLRKilw

First, I got the message at 5:45 in the morning so just excuse me for signing and looking all sleepy.

This video is an private announcement that Nikon announced regards of Nikon D700 body only. Nikon did not announce this publicly since they announced it this morning at work.

Read the captions on the video because I won't be answering your comments with questions.

This apply to MOST of the D700's - some D700's are in a good working order.

Nikon announced to pause D700's production to go back to the beginning to repair and fix problems, bugs, and machine errors - such as -

Defective sensor • fails to deliver results without blown highlights at minimum aperture at low ISO • incompatible with Mac OSX 10.5 Leopard • CF door are very fragile • focusing screen is slightly misplaced • AF points will not be able to move around in CL / CH mode • Auto WB (White Balance) fails to change the color temperature when SB-900 have a color temperature filter attached (SB-900 reads the filter to send information to D3-Series / D700 to adjust the white balance) • D700's popup flash is not working properly for Nikon Creative Lighting System as the master flash • high ISO banding appears after ISO 800 • short battery life (expects to have at least 1,500 shots per charge but it dies after 250 shots) • LiveView have wrong shooting modes (It have to be switched - Tripod Mode is Handheld Mode, Handheld Mode is Tripod Mode) • problems with USB Mass Storage option • AI ring (for manual focus lenses) is too stiff • D700's popup flash menu doesn't include "M" (manual flash input) • fails to write RAW data onto card (XMP) • (rare) hot / dead pixels on LCD screen • lens mount is fragile • does not recognize MB-D10 when attached • hot / dead pixels occur at higher ISO's • AF-C tends to back-focus slightly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8tckLRKilw

[dazzle]

If QI, sure D700. If compare to Canon sure 5D. Just compare the QI only.

[jetfynn]

I just completed the entire 3 biji D24...................BURP! :azz:

[twsttl]

Not the best video to watch for D700 users or prospective buyers... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8tckLRKilw



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8tckLRKilw

Wahh.........:run_away::run_away::run_away: :run_away:

[kljs]

Why not hold out for a while longer and see if Nikon decides to come up with a D4? or D3x?

[jameslow]

Why not hold out for a while longer and see if Nikon decides to come up with a D4? or D3x?

if the D3x rumour is true, different league la, D4? I dun think so for the next 12 months. What says you? :)

[seethoe]

i'll say D3....obvious if u hv the dough.... :)... otherwise D700.... if u r just a hobbist, D300 is good enough lah...unless u r rich... :)

[jayhan]

Not the best video to watch for D700 users or prospective buyers... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8tckLRKilw



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8tckLRKilw


This guy is a hoax.
apparently he's made loads of lies even on his own personal profile
just check this out http://geocities.com/spina_expose/
and also there is a thread on fred mirinda on him as well
and people are already asking if he's working for C lol

[DPcanon]

D700 surely. Lighter, cheaper & same IQ.

[seisuichai]

wah.......D3 and D700 just only come out not long and people already waiting for D4, D3x..... wah... now i am wondering if i should change to the dark side...

[dazzle]

Newbie here on D700. Just sold all my Canon 40D + 2 L lens + speedlite.
I bought Nikon D700 + SB900 + MB-D10 + AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 + Sigma 24-70mm F/2.8(No budget to fit into AF-s 24-70mm F/2.8)
Bye bye to canon......................
Can I join the dark side???
Welcome me pls

[noruazumi]

Newbie here on D700. Just sold all my Canon 40D + 2 L lens + speedlite.
I bought Nikon D700 + SB900 + MB-D10 + AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 + Sigma 24-70mm F/2.8(No budget to fit into AF-s 24-70mm F/2.8)
Bye bye to canon......................
Can I join the dark side???
Welcome me pls
Good to see you got yourself a REAL camera. :D

[ShaolinTiger]

I'd go for D700+Grip and invest on a 24-70mm f/2.8 with the difference saved from buying a D3.

[csjian]

i will say D700:)

[jayhan]

roger that!

dazzle - congrats on your new purchase. thank god you aint meddling with calculator manufacturers anymore. LOL

[dazzle]

Don't say canon like this. U hurt somebody using this brand....:redface:
Previous u also from this brand right:smack:

[jmaguireokm]

Don't say canon like this. U hurt somebody using this brand....:redface:
Previous u also from this brand right:smack:

yahlor, cannot like that ma hor :D
must always remember this :- "饮水思源" :run_away

[orionmystery]

yahlor, cannot like that ma hor :D
must always remember this :- "饮水思源" :run_away

Eh..translate lah..i understand but lots of people here wont leh :)

Don't say canon like this. U hurt somebody using this brand....:redface:
Previous u also from this brand right:smack:

roger that!

dazzle - congrats on your new purchase. thank god you aint meddling with calculator manufacturers anymore. LOL

ya lor...dont' say that lah :D...i also think of Canon because they have one grandma lens that Nikon doesn't have: MP-E65. (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/mp-e-65.shtml)

[dazzle]

I try out the whole day on Friday & Saturday...........
Totally is difference from the Canon. I think I have used to it.
I like the color and the the AWB function from the D700.

My latest combination:

Camera Body
D700 :bow_down:

Lens:
Nikon AF Nikkor 20mm f/2.8D (new),
Nikon AF Nikkor 24mm f/2.8D (new),
Nikon AF Nikkor 35mm f/2D (new),
Nikon AF NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8D (new),
Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G IF-ED (new)

Flash:
SB900 - (New)
SB800 - 2nd


I tested the 14-24mm F/2.8................................ :P at my friend shop
This lens is a special lens..I like the lens very much but............
I seldom take this type of picture.
For me, I buy the Prime lens cause these lens really sharp at the edge and it light.....................:P

[jayhan]

hahah
saja flame brand a little bit. too boring liao... haha
anyway, of course canon got its upside also la... just not enough to keep me stuck with them.

[Jamal Rahman]

sell??
2nd body la.... eeheheh
im looking at D700+70-200mm with D300+17-55mm combo

I would prefer D300 + tele & D700 + wide :D
A 17-35 with the D700 should be a great combo.
I love my D3 + 17-35.

[jayhan]

Jamal,
I did thought about that too
Might just end up with D700+24-70mm and also 14-24mm (which then I would need to sell the TOKINA 11-16/2.8 and also NIKKOR 17-55/2.8) and a D300+70-200 combo

[Jamal Rahman]

Jamal,
I did thought about that too
Might just end up with D700+24-70mm and also 14-24mm (which then I would need to sell the TOKINA 11-16/2.8 and also NIKKOR 17-55/2.8) and a D300+70-200 combo

I have 14-24. For a full frame 17-35 is already OK.
14-24 is heavier & no filter (widely) available yet.

2nd hand 17-55 is cheap now... :(

[dazzle]

D700 can hit 8fps with the additionnal battery Grip, MB-D10 with just 8 Sanyo Eneloop Ni-MH batteries........................No need to buy the EN-EL4a Rechargeable Li-ion Battery.
U know how much to spend on this:

Nikon EN-EL4a = RM425x2=RM850
Nikon BL-3 Battery Chamber cover=RM100x2=RM200
Nikon MH-22 Dual Quick Charger=RM645

Total = 850+200+645=RM1695

I buy 8 Eneloop batteries only RM 110
SO RM1695 divide 110 = 15.4
Total eneloop batteries u can get = 15.4*8=123

What you think.......................

[kljs]

I was wondering.... is D700 consider high-end?

[seethoe]

I was wondering.... is D700 consider high-end?

i would say mid-high end for 35mm format..... D3 is high end.... leica is another story.....hassy is still another story....

[dazzle]

If u consider all the range, D3 is still not in the high end list.
Canon Mark 1Ds is the really high camera for the single lens reflex (slr).

[jameslow]

If u consider all the range, D3 is still not in the high end list.
Canon Mark 1Ds is the really high camera for the single lens reflex (slr).

what makes u think D3 is not high end in Nikon for the time being, then which body is?

and why u think 1Ds is higher end than D3, base on what? MP? price? size?

[seethoe]

i think quite alot are dumping their MkIII and migrated to D3... so i guess D3 is higher end than MkIII, i suppose....unless they r all downgrading...

[dazzle]

brother, u look on the sensor size 21 Megapixel...............IS nearly to medium format. But D3 is 12.1 Megapixel. How to bit the medium format???
My define high end is the QI base on the megapixel.
I also own a D700.
How is end - high or med range???

[seethoe]

yup...i guess so....some like to use megapixel as a reference to low-mid-high end.... so my 8mp canon S-80 is higher end than my old 6mp D70....mmmm....wonder why i can't take better macro pic with S-80 compared to my old D70 + SP90.....

[dazzle]

friend u :offtopic:We not discuss DSLR.

[tools4fools]

If you think more MPixel the better camera then you understood absolutely ZERO about digital photography.

Maybe you should read up a bit on it.

Just a few hints:

- Not all photography is made for the same purpose. Medium format is great for studio, but useless for sports for example.

- Some people need speed, those sports guys for example, and 12MP is plenty to print high-resolution image in any glossy magazine.

- There are good and bad pixels out there. To exaggerate: you could have 120MP of pixels which have an output of just 16 different colors each (4bit). Or 12 Mp with 65,536 color (16bit) output. Which one would give you the better image most likely?

*****

[dazzle]

If you think more MPixel the better camera then you understood absolutely ZERO about digital photography.

Maybe you should read up a bit on it.

Just a few hints:

- Not all photography is made for the same purpose. Medium format is great for studio, but useless for sports for example.

- Some people need speed, those sports guys for example, and 12MP is plenty to print high-resolution image in any glossy magazine.

- There are good and bad pixels out there. To exaggerate: you could have 120MP of pixels which have an output of just 16 different colors each (4bit). Or 12 Mp with 65,536 color (16bit) output. Which one would give you the better image most likely?

*****

boss,
why i dun understand? I can teach you how the sensor make.....what is the sensor contain.
Pls be manner abit, dun hurt ppl like this.
What Zero, zero is nothing.
Just know abit of normal day theory ...what to teach ppl
I taking photo more that u, i think.
Why I change from Canon to Nikon?
Cause the QI is really depending to my work. I went to Canon heard quarter for advise.....on the full frame camera. They say the best solution for me is mark3 1ds. I decide to look on the Nikon D700.
Nikon can provide me this solution without spend big money for the Mark3 1Ds.

Look like your reply is copy and paste from others source............

[seethoe]

:offtopic: all!

pls :back2topic:.. this thread is abt D700 or D3.... furthermore i rest my case of comparing mp as low-mid-high end camera.....

[fxmiau33]

so is there any conclusion D700 or D3 cause i will be getting one this weekend...... don wan to menyesal later.......

currently got my D300 with 70-200, 50mm 1.4, 16-85

[tools4fools]

My define high end is the QI base on the megapixel.

Good. Megapixel being the only benchmark then. Stay and be happy with your own definition.
No further comments needed.

As for the original question:

IQ D700 can do whatever D3 can do. So same-same here.

Pro for D3:

- even more rugged construction
- more bragging rights
- faster

Question is if you need those above, most likely not.

Pro for D700:
- much cheaper (more cash for lenses and whatever)
- lighter
- smaller

Most people don't need the extra speed and construction, but lighter, smaller and cheaper are distinct advantages.
So overall D700 makes more sense to me.

I got a D3 and still would get one if I had to choose but for me its the durability. If you could see my old F5 you would know what I mean...MY cameras get no primadoona treatment, they are used as tools.
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[seethoe]

i agree with tools4fools... get a D3

[dazzle]

At last I also own a D700.................
Feel good..................Looking for Nikon latest FF camera

[wasabi]

guyz, take a min look at this baby..... just imagine shooting with it.....
syoik not?

fxmiau33... u got the answer???

28779
chick magnet..

[chuah406]

wasabi......that's really "high" end la......haha! :D

[dazzle]

Wow, the Nikon700 can take in-door picture without using flash......
very impressive...........the noise also very very low.
This is really make me fly high......................