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budakpg
07-10-2007, 11:05 PM
I have taken these shots after more than 20 years of not doing photography. Trying to make a come back and would welcome any tips in improving my shots.... Thanks.

ShaolinTiger
07-11-2007, 02:24 AM
Welcome back to photography and welcome to Shutter Asia!

:welcome:

The first 2 look a bit washed out and overexposed for me, were they scanned from film?

#3 is nice, good expression nice light and good composition. My only sore point would be the beam going right through the middle of his head!

#4 again looks a bit washed out for me and I'd prefer if they were placed to the left of the frame with space on the right.

#5 is the best for me, nice sharp, good composition and no distracting elements!

red
07-11-2007, 06:39 AM
hehe...
velcome budakpg....:D


F3 coming eh?!:cool:

noruazumi
07-11-2007, 07:50 AM
people in their elements are something that i really love.
and your shots were purely show it.
i love all of them the way the are.
thanks for sharing and welcome back! :)

budakpg
07-11-2007, 08:26 AM
Hi Red,

You open up your shoos p very early today.... Thanks for the velcome. Waiting to see some of your photos in here...

ST,

Yes I scanned them from film. As the resoulution goes down, the more washed out it gets. The high res scan looks a lot better, but it gets too big for posting. Nonetheless I appreciate your comments on compositions. Cheers.

noruazumi,

Thanks for your encouraging words. I will sure come back....



*please use multi-quote function to avoid double/multiple posts. thank you.*

alancheong7
07-16-2007, 05:05 PM
#2 for me - captures that fleeting moment in time, of history of life where everyone went about their daily lives ... a miniscule slice of time was frozen here :thumbs_up:

budakpg
07-16-2007, 09:31 PM
Hi Alan,

#2 is my favourite too..... Although the others have their own attractions, I totally agree with you on the way that you described the photo - took the words right out of my mouth. Thanks a lot for your comments and wonderful articulation.

leslie
07-16-2007, 10:28 PM
yoyo budakpg, u also film user ?

heh...now i'm sticking to Ilford HP5 at the moment.... btw Pic 2 i LIKE can u use PS to tone down the brightness ?

How is your development time, maybe u wanna consider pushing it longer a little bit, buat grainy sikit....:P

got a few film users here....also..die hard tak habis mati mati nak guna filem despite the increase in cost and limited availability of resources + the amount of time spend in the darkroom :rolleyes:

Lets keep in touch, need to keep the film era alive despite with all these digital easy to use and fix methods.

btw pix 2 haha if the ppl were to wear something say longer pants and longer shirts and pix a bit more grainy but still can retain the highlights....you might probably be able to fool ppl its taken during the 60's or 1970's.......reminiscence of a lost era

ShaolinTiger
07-16-2007, 10:39 PM
I like feel of pic 2 aswell, I hope you don't mind but I envision it something like this (curves - sharpen - add grain - some burning on bright areas).

4030

leslie
07-16-2007, 10:43 PM
ah yes more grain......:P but if from film....heh...push it longer sikit during development if u process it yourself :D

budakpg
07-16-2007, 11:05 PM
yoyo budakpg, u also film user ?

heh...now i'm sticking to Ilford HP5 at the moment.... btw Pic 2 i LIKE can u use PS to tone down the brightness ?

How is your development time, maybe u wanna consider pushing it longer a little bit, buat grainy sikit....:P

got a few film users here....also..die hard tak habis mati mati nak guna filem despite the increase in cost and limited availability of resources + the amount of time spend in the darkroom :rolleyes:

Lets keep in touch, need to keep the film era alive despite with all these digital easy to use and fix methods.

btw pix 2 haha if the ppl were to wear something say longer pants and longer shirts and pix a bit more grainy but still can retain the highlights....you might probably be able to fool ppl its taken during the 60's or 1970's.......reminiscence of a lost era

Yo leslie,

Yes indeed - we film shooters must get together to keep film alive. Actually I did print #2, #3 & #4, and all came out great with some burning - thats a beauty of film. You are right about #2 could be mistakenly thought as taken in the 60s. Many of my friends thought it was when they saw the print, but the motorcycle plate number (lower right corner) gave it away....

These were taken with Neopan 400 (rated at 320). Where do you get your supply of HP5 from? I managed to get hold of a few rolls of FP4 Plus recently and shot a roll of it but had not developed it yet so do not know how it comes out. Will post them here once I developed them. Thanks again.

I like feel of pic 2 aswell, I hope you don't mind but I envision it something like this (curves - sharpen - add grain - some burning on bright areas).

ST - your interpretation of the photo is a lot better than what I had envisioned. If I have a chance, I will scan the print that I made out of it, and perhaps post it here for a comparison with your interpretation... :)

ah yes more grain......:P but if from film....heh...push it longer sikit during development if u process it yourself :D

leslie - I must learn the push pull development technique from you as I am still a novice at this.... :D

leslie
07-16-2007, 11:24 PM
budakpg i am still trying to remember my push pull technique haha i learnt 8 years ago..aiya...u use Neopan ar ?

tats one of the most *fussiest films to handle*

Apparently Neopan kalau if u tak ikut the development schedule properly your pics might come out weird, its not so stable compared to Ilford or TMax.

Budakpg i share with you this site
http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html

it contains all the development time for every single film u can ever get in your hands. A very good source if you are keen to discover more...i have already printed half of it, can make a Dictionary out of it alreay :P:P
I got my Ilford + TMAX 400 in SG, bought a whole lot of it :P

moshpit21
07-17-2007, 05:27 AM
i like picture no #2,

its soooo black and white.. :D

-peace-

budakpg
07-17-2007, 09:40 AM
budakpg i am still trying to remember my push pull technique haha i learnt 8 years ago..aiya...u use Neopan ar ?

tats one of the most *fussiest films to handle*

Apparently Neopan kalau if u tak ikut the development schedule properly your pics might come out weird, its not so stable compared to Ilford or TMax.

Budakpg i share with you this site
http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html

it contains all the development time for every single film u can ever get in your hands. A very good source if you are keen to discover more...i have already printed half of it, can make a Dictionary out of it alreay :P:P
I got my Ilford + TMAX 400 in SG, bought a whole lot of it :P

leslie, thanks for the link. I will check it out later. When is your next trip to SG? I might want to impose on you to get some films for me as well while you are some for yourself :D

i like picture no #2,

its soooo black and white.. :D

-peace-

moshpit21 - I am glad that you like the photos as well. Do you shot B&W too by any chance?

moshpit21
07-17-2007, 09:50 AM
yes, i do shoot BW, but i'm not a film user, i'm still experimenting and learning on how to make/convert photos to BW.

in my previous camera, 30D, it has a monochrome picture style, so i took it most of the time with it, without any post processing needed.
But now i have to always convert it in CS3 or Capture One Pro or DPP.

-peace-

budakpg
07-17-2007, 10:06 AM
yes, i do shoot BW, but i'm not a film user, i'm still experimenting and learning on how to make/convert photos to BW.

in my previous camera, 30D, it has a monochrome picture style, so i took it most of the time with it, without any post processing needed.
But now i have to always convert it in CS3 or Capture One Pro or DPP.

-peace-

moshpit21 - have you posted any of your work before? I would like to get some insipration from others to improve my photos, if you dont mind... :)

moshpit21
07-17-2007, 10:16 AM
i haven't post any..yet. :D

will find some to post here..

-peace-

orionmystery
07-17-2007, 10:18 AM
moshpit21 - have you posted any of your work before? I would like to get some insipration from others to improve my photos, if you dont mind... :)

Hi budakpg, you can do a quick search. Click the pull down menu right next to Search at the top right corner ->Advance Search -> Type in Username ->Pull down menu and select Threads started by user

Cheers,

moshpit21
07-17-2007, 10:23 AM
u can do it by left click my name, and click "view public profile"
then click "Find all threads started by..." :D

-peace-

budakpg
07-17-2007, 10:30 AM
Hi budakpg, you can do a quick search. Click the pull down menu right next to Search at the top right corner ->Advance Search -> Type in Username ->Pull down menu and select Threads started by user

Cheers,

u can do it by left click my name, and click "view public profile"
then click "Find all threads started by..." :D

-peace-

Thank you both for your tips. :)

moshpit21
07-17-2007, 10:35 AM
i found one old stock,
it was taken by LUMIX FZ-20
PP in CS3 with DigiDaan's technic.

hope u dont mind i post it here.. thx.

-peace-

leslie
07-17-2007, 11:11 PM
budakpg my contact will be going back to SG prob next mth :P then u can list down what u need :P :rasta:

btw budakpg which scanner did u use to scan the films....i'm thinking of doing something really nuts.....buy a dedicated Film Scanner....around 2-3k

budakpg
07-17-2007, 11:31 PM
budakpg my contact will be going back to SG prob next mth :P then u can list down what u need :P :rasta:

btw budakpg which scanner did u use to scan the films....i'm thinking of doing something really nuts.....buy a dedicated Film Scanner....around 2-3k

leslie, I'll start working on my list immediately... :)

On the scanner, I use to get Digicolor to develop and scan all my colour photos. They are the cheapest in town, but not the best in resolution and cannot scan B&W. For B&W I normally use Fuji FDI shop in Pusat Bandar Damansara - they are quite good.

I have been contemplating to get a dedicated film scanner many times myself, but not sure which one would be of the best value. Looking at the specs of the flatbed scanners by Canon these days, I beginning to think that the high resolution offered by the dedicated scanners may not be of much value if one do not print (digitally) ones work. For archiving and web posting, perhaps a medium resolution scanners like a flatbed costing around rm 1000 would do the job. :? But then again, it is not always what we need that we ended up buying, in most cases, aint it...? :D

leslie
07-17-2007, 11:56 PM
OT to topic

budakpg i agree..most of the time we end up buying something well too far fetch for our own personal needs.....who wont want to spend RM25k for a high end Kodak High Speed High Definition professional scanner ..hahaha

unless u have the dough :P

budakpg come to next TT lar...i show u some black and white pics...taken in China in mid 1960's by my late grandfather using a Leica M3.......

u sure pengsan when u see...
the images are still perfect and never did it fade at all....

btw RM1k for a flatbed dedicated scanner sounds ok...think can check with Canon at their showroom, maybe bring your laptop grab a negative then scan it then see how it performs..i would do that when i am ready to get one