Nikon's RAW - NEF

[ND40]

Hello guys, i'm encounter something weird here.

I shoot with RAW and do editing with camera raw.
After i do all adjustment, i save as Jpeg/Tiff, but when i view it as Tiff/Jpeg, i found the picture decolor. In Cantonese, it simply called "lat sek". Anyone experience this? and how to overcome?

edit: if i view with photoshop it looks as how i edit. But when i use filmstrip (windows) to view, the pic looks decolor.

[Saimontang]

ya~ why~ issit colour profile method? or wrong white balance adjusted... sometimes come out picture dull and blueish....

Last time i use Capture NX din happen this thing.. but now i use capture pro then face with this doubt... :rolleyes:

HELP~~~~~:run_away:

[ND40]

i dont think wrongly adjust.... after adjustment, i save as jpeg, when i view with the window's fax viewer (something like this), it looks decolor, when i view it with photoshop, everything is alright as how i adjust.

Anyone can help!!??

[raclette]

i think its the windows viewer. it doesnt reproduce colors correctly. try printing it out or viewing it in other programs..

[ND40]

raclette, thx for that. I think might be the window's viewer problem.

I open with picture project (software from nikon), the color looks great. Look as how i edit it in photoshop.

But just the window picture viewer view it oddly. When i upload to flickr and multiply, the color looks like how the window picture view it. Looks decolor. Is it normal to have this problem?

okay guys. i solved the problem..

i went out to have a bottle of "tong shui" just now. The uncle was work in publisher before. he told me that sometimes pc might not read camera's color. Something like that. I don't know how to explain it exactly. In laymen term, the pc don't understand the color.

To solve the problem:
right click on dekstop, then choose properties.
after that click setting and next one click on advanced.
you will see the "color management" tab, click on it, and click add.
you will see AdobeRGB (1998), i assume this is what our camera use.
Add it in box that stated "Color profiles currently associated with this device:"
then the problem will be solved!!

hope this can help. For those who face this problem, give it a try. Maybe it make a different after that. Not sure if it helps you, but it do solve my problem 2 mins ago. Thx for those who trying to help!!

[raclette]

okay guys. i solved the problem..

i went out to have a bottle of "tong shui" just now. The uncle was work in publisher before. he told me that sometimes pc might not read camera's color. Something like that. I don't know how to explain it exactly. In laymen term, the pc don't understand the color.

To solve the problem:
right click on dekstop, then choose properties.
after that click setting and next one click on advanced.
you will see the "color management" tab, click on it, and click add.
you will see AdobeRGB (1998), i assume this is what our camera use.
Add it in box that stated "Color profiles currently associated with this device:"
then the problem will be solved!!

hope this can help. For those who face this problem, give it a try. Maybe it make a different after that. Not sure if it helps you, but it do solve my problem 2 mins ago. Thx for those who trying to help!!

it depends on ur setting on the camera i think:) but yeah , i tried changing the color profile just now and it seems to be more accurate (mine is sRGB) . thanks:partyon:

[ND40]

raclette, you had corrected me...

there are sRGB and aRGB.. 1 more... forgotten what it called as.. i think the best is set accordingly. I set it same as the camera one. Easier to do tuning.

[ShaolinTiger]

It's because you are using AdobeRGB, most programs don't understand it and can't view it properly.

If you upload AdobeRGB pictures to the web they will look wrong, if you adjust your monitor calibration to AdobeRGB it won't help, they will still look wrong to everyone else.

You need to convert to sRGB before you upload to the web, if not the colours will look washed out.

[ND40]

finally got my setting correct.. no more washy lo...

thx ST and raclette for sharing

[ND40]

hello guys...i encounter another problem.

The picture show in my LCD and my photoshop are different. I mean the same picture but come out differently. They are in raw, and yet to have any pp yet. I wonder anyone had this problem? is it my laptop's LCD problem? or the photoshop itself?

[orionmystery]

hello guys...i encounter another problem.

The picture show in my LCD and my photoshop are different. I mean the same picture but come out differently. They are in raw, and yet to have any pp yet. I wonder anyone had this problem? is it my laptop's LCD problem? or the photoshop itself?

If you mean different when you view your RAW file in Windows Photo Gallery (Nikon CODEC needed) and in Adobe Camera RAW, i face the same problem too. Something to do with Windows? Or Nikon CODEC?

[ND40]

If you mean different when you view your RAW file in Windows Photo Gallery (Nikon CODEC needed) and in Adobe Camera RAW, i face the same problem too. Something to do with Windows? Or Nikon CODEC?

ops u got me wrong. I had solve the window one.
Previous one was Window Photo Viewer Vs Camera Raw PS

Now the problem is the Camera's LCD Vs Camera Raw in PS

[skywalker]

It's because you are using AdobeRGB, most programs don't understand it and can't view it properly.

If you upload AdobeRGB pictures to the web they will look wrong, if you adjust your monitor calibration to AdobeRGB it won't help, they will still look wrong to everyone else.

You need to convert to sRGB before you upload to the web, if not the colours will look washed out.
Yes, ST is correct. NEVER touch AdobeRGB if u don't know what you are doing or you are not printing the pix yourself.

I am surprised... as I understand, Nikon cameras come preset with sRGB. You/or someone must have changed it to aRGB... and I think I know the reason why.

If you are a 'reader' of books... most will tell you that aRGB is better as the colour is 'wider range' or something. But you must understand, pix taken with this mode is very leceh one... u hv to convert before saving for printing/for web/ etc.

Good that you have finally found your problem. :run_away:

[ShaolinTiger]

Oh yeah also note Adobe RAW Converter defaults to AdobeRGB too, so watch your colour management.

As for LCD vs Monitor it's like that, LCD shows processed according to settings in camera I think, RAW comes out plain, so you have to adjust to taste.

Plus it'll be different unless you calibrate your monitor to your camera, at least if you calibrate your monitor with a Spyder or similar it'll look closer.

[derickuan]

For your second problem,

1) When view with Nikon LCD...

what you see is RAW data + Camera settings (Sharpness, Contrast, Saturation & White Balance)

2) When view with Nikon's software - Picture Project or Nikon Capture in PC

what you see is RAW data + Camera settings(Sharpness, Contrast, Saturation & White Balance)

3) When view with CS2 in PC

what you see is RAW data plus the white balance setting only...

That's why pictures view in CS2 when you load are very dull and not sharp...that's where you need to work it up from there to create the oomph in your picture.

One more thing. Unless you do your own printing, there's no reason for you to choose ARGB.

My 1/500 sens ...hehe

[orionmystery]

Hmmm..thanks, i guess you guys also answered my question of why RAW file looks different in Windows Photo Gallery viewer. :P:D

[orionmystery]

Oh yeah also note Adobe RAW Converter defaults to AdobeRGB too, so watch your colour management.

As for LCD vs Monitor it's like that, LCD shows processed according to settings in camera I think, RAW comes out plain, so you have to adjust to taste.

Plus it'll be different unless you calibrate your monitor to your camera, at least if you calibrate your monitor with a Spyder or similar it'll look closer.

Oh my, I just realised that i've been working on adobeRGB all this while...but those photos were just for SA, and some websites..:0.

[ShaolinTiger]

Oh my, I just realised that i've been working on adobeRGB all this while...but those photos were just for SA, and some websites..:0.

Yeah you're right, no wonder your pics looked a bit washed out haha.

I just checked some of your pics..

Adobe RGB (1998)

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[atim]

raclette, thx for that. I think might be the window's viewer problem.

I open with picture project (software from nikon), the color looks great. Look as how i edit it in photoshop.

But just the window picture viewer view it oddly. When i upload to flickr and multiply, the color looks like how the window picture view it. Looks decolor. Is it normal to have this problem?

okay guys. i solved the problem..

i went out to have a bottle of "tong shui" just now. The uncle was work in publisher before. he told me that sometimes pc might not read camera's color. Something like that. I don't know how to explain it exactly. In laymen term, the pc don't understand the color.

To solve the problem:
right click on dekstop, then choose properties.
after that click setting and next one click on advanced.
you will see the "color management" tab, click on it, and click add.
you will see AdobeRGB (1998), i assume this is what our camera use.
Add it in box that stated "Color profiles currently associated with this device:"
then the problem will be solved!!

hope this can help. For those who face this problem, give it a try. Maybe it make a different after that. Not sure if it helps you, but it do solve my problem 2 mins ago. Thx for those who trying to help!!

hi all ,
i'm new also....just want to know..commonly on printing..what color set they used ??..sRGB or adobe RGB..??..

thanks ,

[ZhenMing]

i also interested to know this...

[ShaolinTiger]

Normal photolab only support sRGB as mentioned early.

Proper printing doesn't use either it uses CMYK.

[atim]

ST

sorry im really noob on this , so if they used CMYK on photolab..
and i doing some post production (sRGB)..but when they print out..
the color are not same..what should i do?

i just do color calibration on monitor.. should i ask their photolab color calibration? :?

really confuse..

thanks for advance

[ShaolinTiger]

ST

sorry im really noob on this , so if they used CMYK on photolab..
and i doing some post production (sRGB)..but when they print out..
the color are not same..what should i do?

i just do color calibration on monitor.. should i ask their photolab color calibration? :?

really confuse..

thanks for advance

If you are using one photolab regularly, calibrate your monitor to their output.

That will give you the best results.