Nice canon macro lens

[gavintan]

Guys ani nice canon marco lens to intro? Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Auto Focus Lens tis 1 good?

[ShaolinTiger]

Yah it's the best one, unless you want the heavier and much more expensive 180mm f/3.5 L USM.

You can also consider the Tamron SP90 for half the price of the Canon 100mm.

[seraphangel]

Is there a Canon 100mm 2.0 macro lens?

[shorinji]

GO FOR TAMRON sp90. u won;t regret. YEhaaaaaaa!!!

[seraphangel]

SP90, heard quite a bit about this lens, very tempting, but still comparing it with canon

[cucubud]

Is there a Canon 100mm 2.0 macro lens?

No. That is a normal prime lens.

[seraphangel]

oh I see, so there's only the 100mm f2.8 macro lens from canon eh, any other recommended lens besides the SP90?

[ShaolinTiger]

You won't go wrong with any of the following:


Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro
Canon 180mm f/3.5 L Macro
Tamron SP90mm Macro
Tamron 180mm Macro
Sigma 105mm Macro
Sigma 150mm Macro
Sigma 180mm Macro

[cucubud]

Canon got a few macro lenses.

Canon EF 180mm f/3.5 L USM Macro Lens
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Lens
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 non USM Macro Lens
Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Macro Lens
Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM Lens

[seraphangel]

wow, thanks guys, currently have my eye more set on the Canon 100mm f2.8, but heard that the SP90 is better?

[andrewng88]

i am planing for the Sigma 150mm Macro ! anyone know the latest price from KL ! thanks

[o_buy]

wow, thanks guys, currently have my eye more set on the Canon 100mm f2.8, but heard that the SP90 is better?

SP 90mm is better...if u r in budget and compare to non-USM canon lens,IMO don't look at Sigma 105mm or 70mm macro ,the AutoFocus of Tamron and Sigma Macro lens are damn slow ,but...SP90mm "Push out"swift to autofocus are able to cover back some speed(use Manual focus to approximate focus distance then push out to auto focus to finish focus).
of course 100mm f2.8Macro USM is faster !!

[cucubud]

Canon 100mm macro lens has FTM (Full Time Manual) focusing. After the lens has done its auto focus, you can continuously focus if you want without switching it to MF (manual focus).

Canon 100mm macro lens will not protude out when focusing. It stays at the same length. This is good when you are taking pictures of insects.

[seraphangel]

Oh so means the Canon 100mm F2.8 USM will be a better choice right? Anyone know the price locally in Malaysia? I saw website is around 2.2k

[ShaolinTiger]

Oh so means the Canon 100mm F2.8 USM will be a better choice right? Anyone know the price locally in Malaysia? I saw website is around 2.2k

Of course it's better, it's also heavier and about twice the price :)

[seraphangel]

I see, any idea about the price shaolintiger?

[g88]

I see, any idea about the price shaolintiger?

SP90 is around RM1300 and Canon 100mm f2.8 Macro around Rm2200 :tongue_roll:

[andrewng88]

how about sigma 150mm macro ! anyone using it ! how is the focus speed ?

[ShaolinTiger]

Focus speed isn't relevant on Macro lens really as you'll be using manual/macro rails/body shift to focus anyway.

But Sigma HSM is as fast as Canon USM or Nikon SWM/AF-S.

[seraphangel]

I see, almost 1k difference in price, what are macro rails by the way, sorry, still noob in photography :tongue_roll:

[ShaolinTiger]

I see, almost 1k difference in price, what are macro rails by the way, sorry, still noob in photography :tongue_roll:

Are you noob in Google too? :run_away:

Macro Rails (http://www.google.com.my/search?q=macro+rails&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)

[seraphangel]

well if you put it that way then there's really no point to ask in forums right? since everything can be found through google. :run_away:

[ShaolinTiger]

well if you put it that way then there's really no point to ask in forums right? since everything can be found through google. :run_away:

Nope forum is for discussion of more abstract and cerebral matters that can't be found with any easy search engine query.

For example why ask the filter size of xxxx lens, or what is xxx? It's easily found on a search engine.

If you found out what a macro rail IS, but don't know it's FOR or WHY you would use one, that's a question you would ask on a forum.

But it's like asking what is a car? It's very different from which car should I buy and why, or why would I need a car.

One is being lazy, one is not.

Understand the difference?

[seraphangel]

if one does not know what a car is and he saw a car, does that qualify as him finding out what a car is? the person sees the car, knows the shape, but without asking, how does one know how it works and what it is for? as such, searching for macro rail on the internet does come up with pictures, but I have no idea what it's for.

but of course once one is knowledgeable about a certain subject, many important questions will seem trivial and simple to them, but in truth, it is actually very difficult for the beginner.

[ShaolinTiger]

You didn't ask what it's for, if you did it would have been answered ;)

[seraphangel]

haha, sorry, I should have phrased my question more specifically, instead of making a general question :) but from the pictures I can only guess it's like a tripod but it let's you move your camera back and front is it?

[ShaolinTiger]

haha, sorry, I should have phrased my question more specifically, instead of making a general question :) but from the pictures I can only guess it's like a tripod but it let's you move your camera back and front is it?

Yeah asking the right questions in the right way is one of the most important things!

Well it's something that fits on top of your tripod head underneath your camera.

It moves in both directions back/front and right/left using sliding rails, as sometimes when you are doing macro you can't twist the focus ring in small enough increments to get the perfect focal point.

So with macro rails you can slide the camera slightly backwards or forwards or to either side to get the exact focus you want.

[seraphangel]

mmm interesting, then you can actually use it for other purposes as well besides macro. so many things to buy for photography, going to go bankrupt soon.

[neoro]

Get the Tamron SP90 . Its super lightweight which makes it super ideal for handheld. Good performer for its value .

I use the Tamron SP90 and Kenko Tubes for magnification of more than 1:1 :)

[seraphangel]

I thought the heavier the lens the steadier it is in your hands? Of course not heavy till you can't even lift it la. :?

[Wutang Crane]

for Canon EF 2.8 100mm Macro, go to yl camera and ask desmond. his price is RM 2,000 (if i'm not wrong)

[o_buy]

I thought the heavier the lens the steadier it is in your hands? Of course not heavy till you can't even lift it la. :?


Emm...u mean is more heavier more steadier ???:rolleyes:
usually beginner photographer prefer "cannon" ,heavy and large filter diameter lens ,expensive stuff ,expensive lens to make theirself look more "pro" ,but honestly tell u ,is nonsense. Pro-photographer should able "刀仔锯大树” use cheap shuff to shoot nice photo ,hahaha!!:D

[seraphangel]

Emm...u mean is more heavier more steadier ???:rolleyes:
usually beginner photographer prefer "cannon" ,heavy and large filter diameter lens ,expensive stuff ,expensive lens to make theirself look more "pro" ,but honestly tell u ,is nonsense. Pro-photographer should able "刀仔锯大树” use cheap shuff to shoot nice photo ,hahaha!!:D

haha cause I always hear people say that 400D body too light and small so not steady, so have to add battery grip to make it have some weight and more stready. Your "刀仔锯大树” really meaningful.

I'm not into the expensive stuff, just the good stuff :D hehe, cheap and good will be great of course :D

[neoro]

I thought the heavier the lens the steadier it is in your hands? Of course not heavy till you can't even lift it la. :?

Ideal indoors - if you;re outdoor hehehe believe me, as light as possible would be good, its easier to keep your hand still with something light than something heavy.

[seraphangel]

haha I see, but is the canon 100mm f2.8 USM that much heavier?

[ShaolinTiger]

haha I see, but is the canon 100mm f2.8 USM that much heavier?

Oh dear, here we go again :P

Tamron SP90 Weight (http://www.google.com.my/search?q=tamron+sp90+weight&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) - 403 grams

Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro Weight (http://www.google.com.my/search?q=canon+100mm+f%2F2.8+macro+weight&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) - 600 grams

So yeah 30% heavier.

[seraphangel]

I see, hmm... I'll have to go to the shops and have a look at the two lenses myself, wonder if they keep stock in Penang.

[neoro]

the px difference between the 2 , you can almost get a flash for your macro work .

Tamron SP90 is a hot item

[ShaolinTiger]

Yah same for me, rather than buy the Nikkor 105mm VR macro lens which is about RM2700 I bought the Tamron SP90 (RM1400) and the SB-800 (RM1350) for about the same price!

[seraphangel]

wooo cool, the SP90 does fit Canon systems right?

[andrewng88]

sigma 150mm macro ! anyone knowns how much selling at YL or photo selangor ?

[neoro]

wooo cool, the SP90 does fit Canon systems right?

Both Nikon and Canon mounts also ada :)

Better call up to make your order, hot items dont normally stay in inventory for long

[o_buy]

SO...ours conclusion is...SP90mm win !! cheap and best !:D
but SP90mm got 2 type lens ,1 is old type ,SP90mm f2.8(TIPA), ,and new type SP90mm Di II f2.8 ,i donno what is the different also ,but i heard that old type is fully made in Japan and new type is China + Japan .;)

sigma 150mm macro ! anyone knowns how much selling at YL or photo selangor ?

150mm f2.8 Macro -- 2399

[neoro]

SO...ours conclusion is...SP90mm win !! cheap and best !:D
but SP90mm got 2 type lens ,1 is old type ,SP90mm f2.8(TIPA), ,and new type SP90mm Di II f2.8 ,i donno what is the different also ,but i heard that old type is fully made in Japan and new type is China + Japan .;)



150mm f2.8 Macro -- 2399

I think only the SP 90 is easily ordered / available now. Image quality wise, well you can check to Pbase or Smugmug and search by lens to see sample pictures. As for durability, as long you're not treating your gear like hardcore press photographers I see no reason why Made in China wont last. Quality issue, seems that I seldom hear people say their macro lens not sharp. Its a prime, generally less issue.

[ShaolinTiger]

The main difference is there is a non-glare coating on the rear element which helps cut down interior reflections and loss of detail/contrast.

The build quality isn't really any different, it's a superb lens and one of the best built 3rd party lenses.

Apart from the Tokina's of course, they are just tanks.

[galee]

Guyz,

I had several frens complaining that SP90 Made In China has got some distortion issue. So do check out the lens and test them out, preferable load them in comp and take a look at the picture quality before getting them. On the other hand, these Made In Yappun ones are tact sharp. :D

Personally, I owned this SP90 before and its a superb lens. It is fact enough even for my previous owned D70... until I finally upgraded both of them. Think back, I still do miss them alot as they are really light weight and fun to shoot with.

[seraphangel]

what have you upgraded to galee?

[seraphangel]

for Canon EF 2.8 100mm Macro, go to yl camera and ask desmond. his price is RM 2,000 (if i'm not wrong)

Wutang Crane, does YL Camera sell new ones at that price or is it second hand lenses?

[o_buy]

For those already have tele zoom and wanna shoot macro...recommend buy extension tube ,eg..Tamron 70-300mm + extension tube 12mm ,is more worth than u buy a macro lens .

http://shashinki.com/shop/kenko-auto-extension-tube-36mm-tubes-canon-digital-film-cameras-p-229.html

[seraphangel]

the extension tube turns telephoto lenses into macro lenses?

[andrewng88]

i use my 24-105mm f4L regularly with kenko extension tube ( can get closer to subject but not as sharp as marco prime lenses ) ! sigma 180mm marco is still in my lenses to buy list!

[o_buy]

the extension tube turns telephoto lenses into macro lenses?

nope...extension is increases the distance between lens and sensor ,and so it slightly or double increases the magnification of the lens .
usually tele lens already have 0.2 -0.5X(1:5 - 1:2)magnification ,and so + e.tube will gain up marco-effect.Beside that ,Tele macro lens is more useful to shoot insect....e.g:buy 180mm macro lens-tamron or sigma-Around RM2500+,but buy a 70-300mm(1:2) + e.tube to become 1:1 only RM1000+....

i use my 24-105mm f4L regularly with kenko extension tube ( can get closer to subject but not as sharp as marco prime lenses ) ! sigma 180mm marco is still in my lenses to buy list!

ya,u r right..of course got little bit different (price also different mah haha:D),but if possible to reduce the aperture to f11 or smaller ,will cover up some sharpness .(i tried many method to shoot macro photo before i got macro lens ,extension tube is more reliable and cheaper way than
close up filter ,inverse lens ,)
tele -convertor also increases the magnification
:partyon:

[ShaolinTiger]

You can calculate here:

http://eosdoc.com/jlcalc/

Of course better to buy proper Macro lens, as it's designed for Macro shooting, then you can stick you extension tubes on that, or even reverse a 50mm on it!

You can try reversing a 50mm on your 70-300mm as well for some cool magnification.

BTW teleconverter doesn't increase the magnification, it just changes the FoV due to telephoto compression, it gives more working distance, so effectively you can use a TC and a close-up filter to remain the same working distance with more magnification.

[seraphangel]

is 100mm macro lens good enough to shoot insects?

[nitehawk]

Canon 100mm f2.8 Macro around Rm2200 :tongue_roll:

Where can I buy at rm2200?

[o_buy]

You can calculate here:

http://eosdoc.com/jlcalc/

Of course better to buy proper Macro lens, as it's designed for Macro shooting, then you can stick you extension tubes on that, or even reverse a 50mm on it!

You can try reversing a 50mm on your 70-300mm as well for some cool magnification.

BTW teleconverter doesn't increase the magnification, it just changes the FoV due to telephoto compression, it gives more working distance, so effectively you can use a TC and a close-up filter to remain the same working distance with more magnification.

Thank you to correct me ,tele-convertor doesn't increases magnification :tongue_roll:

is 100mm macro lens good enough to shoot insects?
Ya ,should be enough if multiply 1.6x ..currently i using SP90mm ...not bad for shoot insects except cockroachs ,i hate them !!!

Where can I buy at rm2200?
mid-valley Canon ,if u pay cash.:cool:

[yothemans]

if you are on budget,go for SP90.Never regretted buying this lens
it's only around rm1.3K:D

[neoro]

is 100mm macro lens good enough to shoot insects?

I shoot with my SP90 and now attached it with the Kenko Tubes to give a lil' more magnification. :)

[orionmystery]

is 100mm macro lens good enough to shoot insects?

If you want longer working distance, then go for longer lens like 180mm, 200mm etc.

[seraphangel]

eh which shop in Mid Valley selling 2.2k? Would love to get one :D

[pixelight]

you can't say the sp90 is better than the canon. you could say they are of the same quality. the sp90 is about 1300 while canon is about 1000. it's all about personal preference and budget. if you can afford the canon, why not? but many people have used the sp90 and it looks wonderful.

P/S : I love shaolintiger's macro shots using the sp90!

[ShaolinTiger]

P/S : I love shaolintiger's macro shots using the sp90!

Thanks! I'm just a beginner in macro tho.

I never regret buying the SP90, superb lens.

[o_buy]

eh which shop in Mid Valley selling 2.2k? Would love to get one :D

Canon lo ,opposite of key color.

Thanks! I'm just a beginner in macro tho.

I never regret buying the SP90, superb lens.


Ya ,i also never regret to bought it ,nice lens with light weight .:cool:
for now i feel only 1 thing CANON 100mm macro is better that SP90mm ,that is full-time manual focus of USM.

[seraphangel]

oh the official Canon store? will go have a look when I go down KL.

[KYspeaks]

SP90 ftw, look no further.

[cheongck]

The main difference is there is a non-glare coating on the rear element which helps cut down interior reflections and loss of detail/contrast.

The build quality isn't really any different, it's a superb lens and one of the best built 3rd party lenses.

Apart from the Tokina's of course, they are just tanks.

Absolutely right. I have the Tokina AT-X M100 PRO D (100mm F2.8 Macro), and the build quality and optics is superb. I am quite surprised that this lens has not been mentioned yet thus far, besides SholinTiger's mention of it's build quality.

[seraphangel]

so between the tokina and the tamron, which one would be better? :fishing:

[neoro]

I would recommend the Tamron as I have past experience with it :)

Bought for RM1300 and sold it for RM1100 - Very good 2nd hand value :)

[seraphangel]

woo cool, why did you sell it?
not taking macro shots anymore? or did you get a better lens?

[my4to]

emm...anyone mentioned Sigma 105mm? Maybe u should have a try,just got mine and here're some sample pics taken with it few days ago :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/my4to/Macro/IMG_1161web.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/my4to/Macro/IMG_1162web.jpg

hope these wont make u more confuse :D

[lordmint]

I purchased my Tamron SP90 a couple days ago. I'm loving it!
Here's a sample pic taken using the SP90. Btw, I'm a beginner at macro. Well, honestly, I started photography as a serious hobby a month ago.

7816

SP90 rocks!

[seraphangel]

hmmm.... interesting samples, both look equally good, so I can't really tell the difference of the two lenses, how much is the sigma by the way?

[my4to]

my opinion,u wont go wrong with any of these 3 macro,Canon 100mm,Tamron 90mm or Sigma 105mm.However,if $$$ is not an issue,i will suggest u go for Canon 100mm.

Sigma 105mm should be more or less same price/slightly cheaper then Tamron SP90.

[seraphangel]

I see, but why do u suggest to get the canon if money is not an issue? is it cause of better compatibility, performance, quality? or any other reason?

[lordmint]

if money is not an issue, get all 3 :P
problem solved. hehehe..

[seraphangel]

haha, no need to get three of the same type of lens ba, that's a total waste of money

[my4to]

never owned a Canon 100 USM but i did try the 100mm without USM b4.It's very solid built compare the other two.It produce super sharp pic as Sigma 105mm,if not better.Also,Canon lens should have better 2nd hand value too.

I once owned a Tamron SP90 but sold it after few days i bought.I just feel not comfortable with it and i never take good pics with it.I'm sure that's just me cos i can see most ppl love it very much and lots of good reviews of it online.

Frankly,Sigma 105mm i'm not really confident with it b4 i got it.(I once got a Sigma 24-70 F2.8 and found it's only sharp with F4.5 and above.) After i try out this Sigma 105mm,i must admit Sigma make very good lens too.I'm now thinking of getting Sigma 18-200 OS if the price is right :)

Above is just my personal expereince and might be different for other owners of the lens.Most probably i dun have the "skill" the handle the lens well,but that's what i had expereince,just to share,hope this helps.

[seraphangel]

what made you uncomfortable with the SP90 my4to? so what macro lens are you using at the moment?

[neoro]

Well I would like to add further Sigma and Tamron's being 3rd party lens, (touch wood) there are incidence of good copy bad copy lens. However, do note that since macro lens are mainly dedicated focal (primes) the chances of getting a bad copy is lower and for me, I have heard little people commenting on receiving a bad copy.

I think the forum is flooded with SP90s, probably enough to kill someone, if all SP90 users would to group up and throw their SP0s at anyone. hahahha.

Why dont you organize a "Please poison me" session this weekend and try the macro lenses. Chances are you may not get the results that you one, first hand cause it takes sometime to find your "feel" for it.

The weekend is coming, maybe you could poison urself enough during the weekdays and get it by the weekend for some really intensive shootouts. :tongue_roll:

[my4to]

what made you uncomfortable with the SP90 my4to? so what macro lens are you using at the moment?

Like i mentioned,i never got good pics with Tamron SP90 but that's just me :)

My advice,pls go to the shop and try those lens u interested to buy then choose the one u like most,isn't that the best way?

[orionmystery]

Like i mentioned,i never got good pics with Tamron SP90 but that's just me :)

My advice,pls go to the shop and try those lens u interested to buy then choose the one u like most,isn't that the best way?

Why no good result leh? post some pic and tell us a bit about how u shoot...eg focusing, exposure, flash etc...then maybe we can give u some input. I am very happy with my SP90 :)

[cucubud]

I like the Canon 100mm macro lens is because it will not protude out when you focus the lens. Furthermore, it has FTM (Full Time Manual) and IF (Internal Focusing).:)

[kenneth]

i have the older version, sp90 non Di. well.... its still great. i love it as well :)
here are 2 samples of SP90 at full 1:1 magnification. the pictures are non-cropped, only resized.

7874

7875

[ShaolinTiger]

I love my Tamron too - can't beat it!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1401/862778233_6825ffc99c.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/79/267691453_00a9ecdd70.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1243/863680600_d0962efb63.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/463059023_c6ac33c543.jpg?v=0

[orionmystery]

Tammy SP90 macro lens ROCKS! Ain't no doubt about it! :D Look at the amount of money you can save compared to buying a similar lens from N or C :P:rasta:

[seraphangel]

I tried out the SP90, can't find a shop that keeps the Canon 100mm in stock for testing though.

[bitbytes9]

Canon got a few macro lenses.

Canon EF 180mm f/3.5 L USM Macro Lens
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Lens
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 non USM Macro Lens
Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Macro Lens
Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM Lens

Include
Canon MP-E65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro Photo :heart: :heart: :heart:

[neoro]

Include
Canon MP-E65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro Photo :heart: :heart: :heart:

Its so hard to find that in Malaysia.... :(

Needs twin lights to go with it

I tried out the SP90, can't find a shop that keeps the Canon 100mm in stock for testing though.

Try the Canon Concept Store in Midvalley , they should have 1 , bring ur camera to test

[seraphangel]

Canon MP-E65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro Photo is the new lens right?
What's the difference with the current lenses canon has?

[redz01]

Why I havent heard of anyone mentioning the Sigma 70mm macro? This lens get the TIPA award for best expert lens this year! :0

[twsttl]

I bought from HIM (http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2007-11DeSale9119189_AUCTION_Canon_EF_100_f_2_8_Marco_U SM.htm) with a great price.:D:D:D

[seraphangel]

Why I havent heard of anyone mentioning the Sigma 70mm macro? This lens get the TIPA award for best expert lens this year! :0

is it? what's so great about it that it deserves an award?:?

[bitbytes9]

Canon MP-E65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro Photo is the new lens right?
What's the difference with the current lenses canon has?

It not new lens. Manual focus only.
Normal macro lens only 1:1, this one can magnification to 5x :)

[redz01]

is it? what's so great about it that it deserves an award?:?

That's what I wanted to know, it gets a reward but no one actually use it or recommend it?:?

[seraphangel]

wow 5X? then the image quality still stay very sharp?

[g88]

OT bit.

Anyone know what the market price for 2nd hand Canon 100mm USM ? Cheapest i meant ;)

[my4to]

check at YL camera,he advertised a 100mm USM at 1680,need to grab it fast b4 it's too late :tongue_roll:

[seraphangel]

woo hoo!! just got my SP90, can't wait to try it out! any tips or advice using this lens?

[orionmystery]

woo hoo!! just got my SP90, can't wait to try it out! any tips or advice using this lens?

Hehe..in that case, join Lordmint tomorrow 8 am at FRIM.

[sting]

Canon f2.8 macro is way better. Even Nikonian Kenrockwell loves it..period!