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robin28witter
09-04-2007, 08:46 PM
Gary Fong Lighsphere or Whaletail?


I am capturing more towards wedding ceremony...so what should i use?

1.anyone use this before?
2.what is the pro and cons?
3.how much of the price in KL?
4.Clear or Cloud is suitable for wedding?

Thanks!

asmady
09-06-2007, 11:04 AM
my experience, lightsphere is good for close proximity shoot. i use it for make-up session, portrait & outdoor shoot. for indoor, go with bounce card or flip-it for better frontal lighting. stofen is good too for sniping from a distance.
this is just my personal preference.

andythology
09-06-2007, 11:08 AM
Personally prefer Demb Flip-It Diffuser. More control-ability.

robin28witter
09-06-2007, 11:15 AM
hmm...how much is flip-it selling?

asmady
09-09-2007, 08:14 AM
RM180 @ directphoto

robin28witter
09-09-2007, 10:05 AM
how bout whale tail ? why no ppl commment bout whale tail? no ppl using it yet?

ShaolinTiger
09-09-2007, 06:42 PM
I don't think Whaletail is available here yet, I haven't seen anyone with it.

robin28witter
09-10-2007, 09:18 AM
:(:(:(Still confusing wether to buy flip-it or gary fong...i am doin wedding...might prefer an easy and simple diffuser....is it lightsphere suit me more?

noruazumi
09-10-2007, 09:28 AM
:(:(:(Still confusing wether to buy flip-it or gary fong...i am doin wedding...might prefer an easy and simple diffuser....is it lightsphere suit me more?

no one can tell which one can suit you better as you yourself have your own style of shooting and flash control. same as everybody here. they can share their experiences but u have to know your shooting style first. like myself, i don't use any diffuser. i like bouncing off ceiling/wall but that only possible if i have white ceiling/wall. else, i just use bare flash which i have far more control than using any diffuser which i think just spread the flash all over the place with extra usage of power.

ShaolinTiger
09-10-2007, 09:42 AM
Yeah it's hard to say, best to try both. Some people prefer one or the other, some don't mind either.

azumi: The point of something like lightsphere or flip-it is to give you a ceiling bounce type effect without a ceiling, or when the ceiling is too high.

jmaguireokm
09-10-2007, 10:16 AM
i'm using GF lightsphere cloud for most of my shooting
i would say so far so good :D
no chance to test on whaletail as not available in Msia yet (i see the preview from the net saying whaletail more better than lightshpere :rolleyes: )

i agree with noruazumi :D it depand on ur shooting style
good luck in ur "hunting" :run_away:

ND40
09-10-2007, 10:58 AM
either one is good. Just your prefference of the poison. See which poison you are opt to.. hahhaa:tongue_roll:

robin28witter
09-10-2007, 06:47 PM
haha..thanks for all gurus...then i wil buy lightsphere...coz in my opinion shooting wedding is more towards instantaneous shooting...or so called candid shots....so i dun have much time to control the flip it too...mayb i am not so pro yet ..so jus make the light spread all over la....haha

Wutang Crane
09-10-2007, 10:47 PM
i use a lightsphere clear version and it's useful to achieve flattering images for portrait and up-close. i usually leave the top open if the ceiling is low. the cap works as a diffuser if you point your flashgun direct to the subject.

it's expensive for a cheesy looking tupperware diffuser, but i just couldn't help but to purchase one out of curiousity. i didn't want to spend more dineros on a cloud version, so what i sometimes do is i stuff a fistful of tissue paper inside the cup and switch to manual FEC to achieve greater/softer diffuse. you can also experiment with colored tissue paper or flourecent paper and surprise yourself!

\\Crane

robin28witter
09-11-2007, 12:13 AM
oic...thanks for such useful information...clear version can use as cloud..but cloud cant use as clear...then better buy clear....will buy on this sat photography festivals at times square...anyone going?

moshpit21
10-09-2007, 09:12 PM
:rolleyes: whale tail not available in Malaysia yet?

I've been using GF Whale Tail for 2 months now.. i tried the lightsphere before too, in normal light situation, i cant barely see any different between these two (but ofcourse there is), but when it comes to complicated lighting situation, whale tail is the champion..

If u have to choose between the GS LS and GF WT, why dont just get the WT, performs better and it is universal, when u change ur flash unit, u still can use it.. just my humble opinion..

-peace-

limecity
10-09-2007, 09:39 PM
Whaletail? its the first time I came to know that. Gary Fong do came up with odd design. lol Lightsphere looks like some instant noodle bowl. and Whaletail looks like toilet bowl. lol.

anyway I came across two interesting reviews.

http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/non-nikon_articles/whaletail/index.html



http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/non-nikon_articles/whaletail/whaletail_2.html

jmaguireokm
10-11-2007, 08:13 PM
:rolleyes: whale tail not available in Malaysia yet?

I've been using GF Whale Tail for 2 months now.. i tried the lightsphere before too, in normal light situation, i cant barely see any different between these two (but ofcourse there is), but when it comes to complicated lighting situation, whale tail is the champion..

If u have to choose between the GS LS and GF WT, why dont just get the WT, performs better and it is universal, when u change ur flash unit, u still can use it.. just my humble opinion..

-peace-

may i know where u get the WT ???
how much would it cost compare to LS ??

thanks.

mobbes
10-11-2007, 08:58 PM
Do you use the various modifiers with straight TTL or + or - compensation?

moshpit21
10-11-2007, 09:19 PM
may i know where u get the WT ???
how much would it cost compare to LS ??

thanks.

got it from Desmond YL Camera.. price RM3++

some ppl would say u are crazy to spend that money on a plastic..:D

-peace-

moshpit21
10-11-2007, 09:21 PM
Do you use the various modifiers with straight TTL or + or - compensation?

there is an instruction manual comes with the GF WT that i bought..

recommended setting from Gary Fong is to use Av mode @ iso 400-800 for indoor mid to low light condition..

this picture was taken with 430EX+WT and canon 50mm F/1.8

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1185458441&size=o

-peace-

aaronfoo
10-11-2007, 09:44 PM
Holy... RM300........LOL

moshpit21
10-11-2007, 10:26 PM
Holy... RM300........LOL

thats exactly what i meant.. :D

-peace-

kclau
10-26-2007, 03:23 PM
where else can i buy this whaletail huh?
been searching for it quite sometimes
even YL also no stock

smokio
11-01-2007, 12:40 AM
u guys can go Jalan Ipoh...Mutiara complex...there are selling whale tail.
and check this out for more detail about gary foong whale tail. www.youtube.com and fill in "gary fong" for seach.:cool:

jmaguireokm
11-01-2007, 10:12 AM
u guys can go Jalan Ipoh...Mutiara complex...there are selling whale tail.
and check this out for more detail about gary foong whale tail. www.youtube.com and fill in "gary fong" for seach.:cool:

you mean Mutiara Complex - Digicolor ?
They all selling China brand thingy wor ...... got whaletail there meh ?? i've been there few weeks ago i also never see any GF LS or WT ler
will go again this coming saturday to check it out :D

sunster
11-01-2007, 10:40 AM
yup i saw it at Mutiara Complx lask week the WT, comes with the color accessories as well .I did not buy cos already have LS. Dun know is there much difference between WT and LS.

kclau
11-01-2007, 02:56 PM
heheheheh
it's the original Whale tail or the Veil Tail?
i've call digicolour last week.

"do you have the GaryFong Whale Tail?"
"what whale tail?"
"the flash difusser by garyfong, with the flap bhind and top"
"Oooo Tht one, we have!"
"how much? got ready stock?"
"70ringgit"
"u sure 70 ringgit? outside selling 300+ wor"
"ya ya 70 Ringgit, we having november promotion now"
"GaryFong Whale Tail wor...."
"i dunno what you saying wo, you come here and check it out la"

hehehehe

eos1dsmkiii
11-23-2007, 07:07 AM
RM180 @ directphoto
found out this online store selling RM170 incl free delivery. :D

http://www.yamiya.com.my/store/product.php?productid=17379

ShutterClicker
11-24-2007, 03:24 AM
I could not find one for the pentax flash ..so DIY ed one..will post picture soon

I cut a styrofoam to fit the flash and stuck a clear plastic taufoofah tupperware on the styrofoam with double sided tape and voila..my own Lightsphere..

so far it manages to produce soft shadow and completely well exposed portraits

ShutterClicker
11-24-2007, 03:31 AM
I could not find one for the pentax flash ..so DIY ed one..will post picture soon

I cut a styrofoam to fit the flash and stuck a clear plastic taufoofah tupperware on the styrofoam with double sided tape and voila..my own Lightsphere..

so far it manages to produce soft shadow and completely well exposed portraits

Peisqo
12-21-2007, 11:17 PM
Hey guys i got the GF imitation lol ... now i got question .. HOW TO USE lol .. well it claims that it can reflect light in ALL direction ... so it doesn't matter where to point it ? DO we still put it at an angle so it bounces to the ceiling ... or directly upwards or what ? What condition use what angle ?

And we can still do "direct flash" with that cap/dome thing on the lambency right ? Shouldn't be too harsh ?