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jayhan
10-14-2007, 11:57 PM
This thread would serve as a platform for all EOS 400D and 350D owners to rant and talk about their DSLR :) Feel free to share info and tips, or ask questions about arising issues on this DSLR.

QuickShare
10-15-2007, 12:00 AM
how to correct the yellow problem on 400D?

jayhan
10-15-2007, 12:01 AM
what kinda yellow problem? are you talking about yellowish pictures due to wrong WB settings?

QuickShare
10-15-2007, 12:20 AM
yeap.. it also happened on AWB.. any idea?

jayhan
10-15-2007, 12:25 AM
AWB is not very accurate. Then again, you might have actually adjusted the WB Shift, or maybe you have bracketed the WB and then didnt reset them to its original position. So, this could be one of the reasons why you are getting yellowish color tones.

Swift3230
10-21-2007, 07:43 PM
Dear guys.....im just bought my very FIRST Canon EOS 400D. still very far to understand all the technique of this babe machine. Maybe need a day out for TT to pass me some knowledge? thanks guys, anyway......the photo result after shooting really impressive. love it

o_buy
10-24-2007, 08:46 AM
HEy ,guys !i heard that now in Malaysia EOS400D kit price drop to RM2400 only ??:?
is that true ?where can get it ?

carllylz
10-24-2007, 08:58 AM
This thread would serve as a platform for all EOS 400D and 350D owners to rant and talk about their DSLR :) Feel free to share info and tips, or ask questions about arising issues on this DSLR.

It's great to have this topic especially for 350D owner like me...:D, been using this model for last 4 months, and only managed to buy the 580EX last month..so far, it gives me good result eventhough i'm having problem with its auto-focus (in the viewfinder looks sharp, when transfered to PC, can see the blur)....my question is, how to handle the Auto Focus mode?

ShaolinTiger
10-24-2007, 12:49 PM
It's great to have this topic especially for 350D owner like me...:D, been using this model for last 4 months, and only managed to buy the 580EX last month..so far, it gives me good result eventhough i'm having problem with its auto-focus (in the viewfinder looks sharp, when transfered to PC, can see the blur)....my question is, how to handle the Auto Focus mode?

First of all make sure it's set to AF-S not AF-C or continuous focus mode.

StPatrick
10-24-2007, 01:01 PM
First of all make sure it's set to AF-S not AF-C or continuous focus mode.



"SET to AF-S" means single shot auto focus??

I do encounter the same problems as Carllyz :?

ShaolinTiger
10-24-2007, 01:10 PM
"SET to AF-S" means single shot auto focus??

I do encounter the same problems as Carllyz :?

Yah make sure it's on single shot not continuous drive AF.

jayhan
10-24-2007, 03:47 PM
"SET to AF-S" means single shot auto focus??

I do encounter the same problems as Carllyz :?

It's great to have this topic especially for 350D owner like me...:D, been using this model for last 4 months, and only managed to buy the 580EX last month..so far, it gives me good result eventhough i'm having problem with its auto-focus (in the viewfinder looks sharp, when transfered to PC, can see the blur)....my question is, how to handle the Auto Focus mode?

Blur pics eh... :P
few factors which can be a culprit here.
1. as what ST said on the continuous focus which if its being turned ON, it might re-focus on to some other subjects by the time you snap the pic.
2. even thought about the fact that your hands are shaking? :P use higher shutter speed to compensate for this.
3. check your diopter. make sure its clearly what you are looking thru the viewfinder.

StPatrick
10-24-2007, 03:54 PM
Blur pics eh... :P
few factors which can be a culprit here.
1. as what ST said on the continuous focus which if its being turned ON, it might re-focus on to some other subjects by the time you snap the pic.
2. even thought about the fact that your hands are shaking? :P use higher shutter speed to compensate for this.
3. check your diopter. make sure its clearly what you are looking thru the viewfinder.


Thanks ST & JAYHAN.

Noted. Will try it out very very soon. Can't wait :cool:

carllylz
10-24-2007, 04:13 PM
Thanks Jay for the info..yea, it's quite frustrated when can't get the good results...for an example, like this picture...(original non-edited camera pic, maybe somebody can edit it for me...:D)

Dunno where the focus had gone...

jayhan
10-24-2007, 04:45 PM
also bear in mind that the lens optics do play a crucial factor in this case regarding sharpness.

some lenses are just not that sharp as compared to others.
tip : kit lenses, the ef-s 18-55mm is an example of such lens. however, there are ways to get around this.

wide open aperture, such as f1.2 or f1.8 can sometimes cause problems such as too much DOF which will render some photo to look like out of focus. so, you might wanna be careful about this. I always stop down my aperture to get more sharpness as well as slightly more DOF.

g88
10-24-2007, 05:47 PM
How to know what aperture to choose (am using AV mode most of the time) ? I have got my cam coming to 6 months and still doing "guessing" sometime what aperture to use from time to time.

All i know is the bigger aperture (e.g f3.5) the more light coming in to the lens and shutter faster (in day time) and it would help on night time also

Also when to know need to adjust the EV and how much to adjust ?

Few months back i just learn to use ISO is proper way ;)...

Sometime really sien photo under/over expose...than if you at 18mm you need like F3.5 to show the object but if you at different focal lengh u need different F number ?? How to "calculate" this ?

I read somewhere said most lens sharpest is on F8 to F11..so right now i try stick to this few aperture ;), and was told buy someone in order to get no shaky pic....you need at least 1/60 ??

I have know about AWB usage..only choose according to the icon description sometime...

Been reading alot and trying alot but still like so so only...

StPatrick
10-24-2007, 08:30 PM
How to know what aperture to choose (am using AV mode most of the time) ? I have got my cam coming to 6 months and still doing "guessing" sometime what aperture to use from time to time.

All i know is the bigger aperture (e.g f3.5) the more light coming in to the lens and shutter faster (in day time) and it would help on night time also

Also when to know need to adjust the EV and how much to adjust ?

Few months back i just learn to use ISO is proper way ;)...

Sometime really sien photo under/over expose...than if you at 18mm you need like F3.5 to show the object but if you at different focal lengh u need different F number ?? How to "calculate" this ?

I read somewhere said most lens sharpest is on F8 to F11..so right now i try stick to this few aperture ;), and was told buy someone in order to get no shaky pic....you need at least 1/60 ??

I have know about AWB usage..only choose according to the icon description sometime...

Been reading alot and trying alot but still like so so only...




Sama Sama problem here. Dunno what aperture to use in situations?


By the way, I have a 350D and the "Exposure meter" is it the same meaning as "Light meter" ?
Please clarify :?

o_buy
10-24-2007, 08:48 PM
Thanks Jay for the info..yea, it's quite frustrated when can't get the good results...for an example, like this picture...(original non-edited camera pic, maybe somebody can edit it for me...:D)

Dunno where the focus had gone...

i think this is not a focus problem..it may be coz by hand shaking when u shoot the picture ,non-IS tele-lenses always facing this problem:(

ANybody can aswer my question? How much for EOS400D kit now? ,really RM2400 only ?

StPatrick
10-24-2007, 09:08 PM
i think this is not a focus problem..it may be coz by hand shaking when u shoot the picture ,non-IS tele-lenses always facing this problem:(

ANybody can aswer my question? How much for EOS400D kit now? ,really RM2400 only ?

*Don't double post - use multi-quote or edit your previous reply*


Sorry, that Im not able to answer your question in regards of the 400D kit.
But before I bought my 350D kit abt a month ago, the 400D is price at rm2699.

Here is a pic that i took earlier this evening with my kit lens.
anything wrong with it?

StPatrick
10-24-2007, 09:13 PM
Opps...what happened to the photo?
Maybe i did too much cropping and sharpening to it. Sorry

zique
10-24-2007, 09:17 PM
StPat: quite noisy leh... what ISO u were using?

StPatrick
10-24-2007, 09:22 PM
StPat: quite noisy leh... what ISO u were using?

Haizz,,, its ISO 1600. Is it after cropping, thats why can see all the noise ?

zique
10-24-2007, 10:13 PM
could be, also maybe u PP to brighten too much? couldn't see the EXIF.

lordmint
10-25-2007, 02:22 AM
How to know what aperture to choose (am using AV mode most of the time) ? I have got my cam coming to 6 months and still doing "guessing" sometime what aperture to use from time to time.

All i know is the bigger aperture (e.g f3.5) the more light coming in to the lens and shutter faster (in day time) and it would help on night time also

Also when to know need to adjust the EV and how much to adjust ?

Few months back i just learn to use ISO is proper way ;)...

Sometime really sien photo under/over expose...than if you at 18mm you need like F3.5 to show the object but if you at different focal lengh u need different F number ?? How to "calculate" this ?

I read somewhere said most lens sharpest is on F8 to F11..so right now i try stick to this few aperture ;), and was told buy someone in order to get no shaky pic....you need at least 1/60 ??

I have know about AWB usage..only choose according to the icon description sometime...

Been reading alot and trying alot but still like so so only...

Hi g88,

My suggestion.. in order for you (and others who are new to this, including myself ;) ) to understand those Fs as well as AWB and any other settings related to your SLR, you need to do experiments with your camera. This might consume some time, but once you can see the difference in the results, it'll help you understand better about those settings.

Take sample shots of a test subject with different settings.

If you're studying on apertures, make sure other variables are the same throughout different aperture settings. Take sample shots at extreme ends (F/1.8,F/22) as well a couple mid-range apertures (4,8,11, etc).

If you studying on white balance settings, take shots of a test subject with different pre-set white balance (tungsten, cloudy, shade, etc.) while other settings remained the same throughout the test.

Lay out the results. Note down the key affects of each settings in a small notepad that you can keep in your camera bag so you can refer to when you needed them the most, instead of trying to recall the test results.

Since you have done some reading on photography, when you relate those results to what you have read, the word that'll come out of your mouth is... "Ohhhhh". :)

jackyyong
10-25-2007, 09:17 AM
Since we're on this particular thread, I thought I'll share my thought on a small little problem I encounter with my 350D. The 2 second timer. It's missing. The 2 second timer is important during tripod mounted shots of a still subject, e.g. macro, night scene, etc. I missed this sorely during the last Putrajaya fireworks display where I mounted my 350D on a tripod, but had to wait 10 seconds before the shot was fired, during which the fireworks has already gone!

It can be done using the remote commander RC-1, so I've heard, but don't tell me I need to spend another hundred bucks just for that feature?! :mad: Yes, I can also DIY a remote wired commander, something which I will definitely try as my upcoming project.

Anyways, I have heard countless websites that describes how to workaround that. But so far none works for me. Any of you guys have a good suggestion?

P/S: Does 400D users have the same problem?

carllylz
10-25-2007, 09:44 AM
Since we're on this particular thread, I thought I'll share my thought on a small little problem I encounter with my 350D. The 2 second timer. It's missing. The 2 second timer is important during tripod mounted shots of a still subject, e.g. macro, night scene, etc. I missed this sorely during the last Putrajaya fireworks display where I mounted my 350D on a tripod, but had to wait 10 seconds before the shot was fired, during which the fireworks has already gone!

It can be done using the remote commander RC-1, so I've heard, but don't tell me I need to spend another hundred bucks just for that feature?! :mad: Yes, I can also DIY a remote wired commander, something which I will definitely try as my upcoming project.

Anyways, I have heard countless websites that describes how to workaround that. But so far none works for me. Any of you guys have a good suggestion?

P/S: Does 400D users have the same problem?

Yes!!I'm agree with you...got really sick when waiting for the 10 secs timer...:(...

p/s: recently bought non canon MADE IN CHINA release shutter at RM50 to overcome this prob, it works very well...:D

zique
10-25-2007, 10:08 AM
carl: where you got it? LOL.... *sheesh... am I being poisoned to get more stuff for my 350D?*

ShaolinTiger
10-25-2007, 12:26 PM
Get a cable release or remote.

You should be using mirror up and bulb mode for fireworks anyway, self-timer pales in comparison to having a remote :

StPatrick
10-25-2007, 12:42 PM
Is EXPOSURE Meter on our 350D, the same meaning as "Light Meter"?

I read Bryan Peterson's book "Understanding Exposure" and he kept saying the "Light Meter".

ShaolinTiger
10-25-2007, 12:45 PM
Is EXPOSURE Meter on our 350D, the same meaning as "Light Meter"?

I read Bryan Peterson's book "Understanding Exposure" and he kept saying the "Light Meter".

The exposure meter on the camera is a reflective light meter.

StPatrick
10-25-2007, 12:51 PM
The exposure meter on the camera is a reflective light meter.

Thanks ST,

but how does the reflective light meter works? (on Manual mode)
Is it with the correct aperture and shutter speed set, on Manual mode,
the arrows stays in the middle of the exposure meter means we have good exposure?

ShaolinTiger
10-25-2007, 12:57 PM
Thanks ST,

but how does the reflective light meter works? (on Manual mode)
Is it with the correct aperture and shutter speed set, on Manual mode,
the arrows stays in the middle of the exposure meter means we have good exposure?

Yeah that's correct.

Swift3230
10-25-2007, 07:22 PM
i think this is not a focus problem..it may be coz by hand shaking when u shoot the picture ,non-IS tele-lenses always facing this problem:(

ANybody can aswer my question? How much for EOS400D kit now? ,really RM2400 only ?

Yeah that's correct.

I bought at 20th Oct at Sg. Wang KL, price at rm2460. Inclusive tripod,bag,2G card,body with kitlens & filter.

rilke
10-28-2007, 03:19 AM
i love the 400D.... but one thing that i find annoying is that the LCD display is not accurate at all... such a big difference when u transfer it to the PC.

Is it a common problem with all canon EOS?

cucubud
10-28-2007, 12:13 PM
Since we're on this particular thread, I thought I'll share my thought on a small little problem I encounter with my 350D. The 2 second timer. It's missing. The 2 second timer is important during tripod mounted shots of a still subject, e.g. macro, night scene, etc. I missed this sorely during the last Putrajaya fireworks display where I mounted my 350D on a tripod, but had to wait 10 seconds before the shot was fired, during which the fireworks has already gone!

It can be done using the remote commander RC-1, so I've heard, but don't tell me I need to spend another hundred bucks just for that feature?! :mad: Yes, I can also DIY a remote wired commander, something which I will definitely try as my upcoming project.

Anyways, I have heard countless websites that describes how to workaround that. But so far none works for me. Any of you guys have a good suggestion?

P/S: Does 400D users have the same problem?

The 2 sec timer is not missing.
You have to set the mirror lock up feature to ON to have the 2 sec timer.
You can refer to page 91 on the EOS 400D user manual.

To enable MLU, go to page 105 on the EOS 400D user manual.
C.Fn-7 set to enable.

Enjoy.:D

jayhan
10-28-2007, 12:27 PM
i love the 400D.... but one thing that i find annoying is that the LCD display is not accurate at all... such a big difference when u transfer it to the PC.

Is it a common problem with all canon EOS?


Ever thought that your LCD monitor of your PC is the one which is not accurate?

rilke
10-28-2007, 07:33 PM
Ever thought that your LCD monitor of your PC is the one which is not accurate?

well.... in many cases... its diff.... i am using the sony trinitron multiscanE230... which i think its quite accurate in terms of colours.... its just a lil inconsistent.

jayhan
10-28-2007, 09:18 PM
rilke, no matter if its a SONY, or NYSO monitor... color management is one bitch lotsa people will face and find it a bit hard to control. you need to callibrate your gears --> from monitors to printers to have proper color management.

rilke
10-28-2007, 09:54 PM
rilke, no matter if its a SONY, or NYSO monitor... color management is one bitch lotsa people will face and find it a bit hard to control. you need to callibrate your gears --> from monitors to printers to have proper color management.

ok... agreed.

StPatrick
10-29-2007, 12:00 AM
In regards to color or parameters on the 350D, which is the best settings?

Should I follow the camera default parameters or do my own settings (Contrast/Sharpness/Saturation/Color tone)?

Can advice or let me know the best setting?
Thanks :)

goldfries
10-29-2007, 08:41 AM
I use my own setting. Try it out to get what you want.

seraphangel
10-30-2007, 09:14 AM
do you all prefer to use manual or the Tv Av modes?

jayhan
10-30-2007, 09:49 AM
aperture priority modes are about 90% of my usage most of the time

goldfries
10-30-2007, 04:44 PM
do you all prefer to use manual or the Tv Av modes?

i rarely touch TV mode.

then again it depends on the situation. TV / AV modes are convenient, especially when you have not much time to spare or doing stuff like sports photography, these settings help a lot.

seraphangel
10-30-2007, 05:04 PM
I see, what's the best recommended mode to use for shooting indoor events?

CutieLynette
11-09-2007, 10:52 PM
Hi all, I bought Swift3230's Canon 400D over and I'm very happy with the camera, though I may not be very good at taking pictures yet. I am yet to understand the whole thing about the getting the best results in low light conditions. I guess I still need to get use to the camera first.

BTW, I'm really new here and I'm new to the world of photography.

jayhan
11-09-2007, 11:06 PM
congrats on your new purchase! :)
and welcome to the canon family!
hope that you will enjoy your new 400D for some time to come....

kayjay
11-10-2007, 02:11 PM
i've got my 400D for 8 months now, and most of the time i'm just using the auto mode, did try out Av a couple of times...
feel like i'm letting this camera down, as i dont really know how to use, or rather how to take real good pictures from it...
the switch is a big gap, i've taken more pics with my old compact digicam compare to this flashy dslr... aiks...

StPatrick
11-10-2007, 02:23 PM
Hi all, I bought Swift3230's Canon 400D over and I'm very happy with the camera, though I may not be very good at taking pictures yet. I am yet to understand the whole thing about the getting the best results in low light conditions. I guess I still need to get use to the camera first.

BTW, I'm really new here and I'm new to the world of photography.



I am also new to my camera Canon 350D and Swift3230's gang has show me a lot in photography tips... :D
Maybe you can join us in our group.
There is a photo shoot at directphoto coming on 17th Nov 2007, starts 2pm-4pm.
Its a good session to practice potraits shots. Be there.

http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5568

Dont worry since you are a canon user. There will be a lot of canon users there. You can contact swift3230 to find out more.

PS. Forgot to tell you, its free and open to public. FOC ..haha
See ya

CutieLynette
11-10-2007, 11:01 PM
I am also new to my camera Canon 350D and Swift3230's gang has show me a lot in photography tips... :D
Maybe you can join us in our group.
There is a photo shoot at directphoto coming on 17th Nov 2007, starts 2pm-4pm.
Its a good session to practice potraits shots. Be there.

http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5568

Dont worry since you are a canon user. There will be a lot of canon users there. You can contact swift3230 to find out more.

PS. Forgot to tell you, its free and open to public. FOC ..haha
See ya

Oh bummer, I've got important things going on in my church's youth group that day. I can't make it! But hey, thanks for the tip off. And if you're going, tell us what you've got from there! :)

luke1021
11-19-2007, 12:22 PM
new Canon 350D user reporting :)

Supps?

andypyt
11-20-2007, 08:38 PM
First Timmer for DSLR Canon 400D Reporting Here.....
Hope to get some leasson from all the Master out there.
:)

mki88
11-20-2007, 09:35 PM
Hi welcome all 350D and 400D users. :)

excha
11-25-2007, 10:39 PM
Soory , if this the right thread.

Just want to know if this price for 400D kits + 2gb + Bag = RM 2799.00 is it worth it to buy.

motorev
11-26-2007, 02:07 AM
AWB is not very accurate.
Agreed. And yellow is also pronounced if u r using Sigma Lenses....

kclau
11-26-2007, 02:30 AM
i've got my 400D for 8 months now, and most of the time i'm just using the auto mode, did try out Av a couple of times...
feel like i'm letting this camera down, as i dont really know how to use, or rather how to take real good pictures from it...
the switch is a big gap, i've taken more pics with my old compact digicam compare to this flashy dslr... aiks...

don't let go such a precious interest :P
to get started, read the easy to understand guide on canon website.
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/enjoydslr/index.html
force yourself to use M mode for few weeks, bring it everywhere and try out different lighting. by using Manual mode, u will force ur mind to sort out the setting and understand the basics.

CutieLynette
11-26-2007, 11:40 PM
I got my 400D for about a month now and I'm rather disappointed with myself regarding the quality of pictures I took with it. It does not look outstanding for pictures taken with a DSLR and they look like pictures I can get from using my previous PnS (Canon Ixus 500).

I took my camera to shoot some of my cousin's wedding two weekends ago and realise that my pictures are not sharp as I want it to be. I'll show you all some...

All pictures are taken in with ISO 1600, the widest aperture my kit lens can push and without a speedlite. And all pictures are edited in PS (Curves and resize)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/drummer_girl4jc/IMG_2684.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/drummer_girl4jc/IMG_2692.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/drummer_girl4jc/IMG_2695.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/drummer_girl4jc/IMG_2704.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/drummer_girl4jc/IMG_2716.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/drummer_girl4jc/IMG_2717.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/drummer_girl4jc/IMG_2721.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/drummer_girl4jc/IMG_2849.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/drummer_girl4jc/IMG_2909.jpg

Pointers for a noobie like me, please.

Freaky
11-26-2007, 11:56 PM
lynette, looks like ur shutter speed in too low and WB is off for most pics... looks like my pics when i 1st got my cam ;)

Best way to learn is to keep shooting more and more... experiment

Practice makes progress

CutieLynette
11-27-2007, 12:09 AM
lynette, looks like ur shutter speed in too low and WB is off for most pics... looks like my pics when i 1st got my cam ;)

Best way to learn is to keep shooting more and more... experiment

Practice makes progress

I noticed if I put a faster shutter my pictures will be underexposed even if I max my aperture and ISO. Is this the limitation of using the kit lens and shooting without a speedlite, or is it because I don't have a pair of steady hands? I hope I'll get that steady hands as I continue to shoot. :(

Yes, will take my camera out to shoot any chance I get. BTW, how much is the max shutter count for 400D?

Thanks, Freaky. :)

ShaolinTiger
11-27-2007, 12:15 AM
I noticed if I put a faster shutter my pictures will be underexposed even if I max my aperture and ISO. Is this the limitation of using the kit lens and shooting without a speedlite, or is it because I don't have a pair of steady hands? I hope I'll get that steady hands as I continue to shoot. :(

Yes, will take my camera out to shoot any chance I get. BTW, how much is the max shutter count for 400D?

Thanks, Freaky. :)

It's a limitation of your equipment, your shutter speed is only 1/20, that's way too slow without a speedlite.

You are already shooting at max ISO which also loses detail, and the kit lens wide open which is not sharp.

Ideal for these low light is a f/2.8 lens stopped down to f/3.2 or f/3.5 and a speedlite bounced or diffused.

400D should last around 50-80k shutter actuations :)

Freaky
11-27-2007, 12:16 AM
i have very unsteady hands also... i can still get blurred pics at 1/200 shutter speed...:(

max shutter speed for 400D is 1/4000

CutieLynette
11-27-2007, 12:49 AM
It's a limitation of your equipment, your shutter speed is only 1/20, that's way too slow without a speedlite.

You are already shooting at max ISO which also loses detail, and the kit lens wide open which is not sharp.

Ideal for these low light is a f/2.8 lens stopped down to f/3.2 or f/3.5 and a speedlite bounced or diffused.

400D should last around 50-80k shutter actuations :)

Thanks, but I can't afford a f2.8 lens or a speedlite for the time being. Will having a 50mm f1.8 fix the problem? I'm thinking of getting a 50mm f1.8 or a secondhand 70-200mm. But I think saving for a 430EX would be a wiser choice, what do you think?

Boy, this sure is an expensive hobby for a poor English teacher like me. :D

ShaolinTiger
11-27-2007, 12:59 AM
Thanks, but I can't afford a f2.8 lens or a speedlite for the time being. Will having a 50mm f1.8 fix the problem? I'm thinking of getting a 50mm f1.8 or a secondhand 70-200mm. But I think saving for a 430EX would be a wiser choice, what do you think?

Boy, this sure is an expensive hobby for a poor English teacher like me. :D

50mm f/1.8 helps in low light but limits your composition, it's rather long for group shots and you can't get close and shoot wide, which you have to indoors!

Many shoot successfully with a speedlite and a kit lens, so I think that would be a better choice.

Jyi
11-27-2007, 01:04 AM
I'm okay with my kit lens plus the onboard flash. For some portraits or bokeh-ing stuff, I use my 50mm f/1.8 II.

Will post some examples up for you soon. :)

kclau
11-27-2007, 01:50 AM
Thanks, but I can't afford a f2.8 lens or a speedlite for the time being. Will having a 50mm f1.8 fix the problem? I'm thinking of getting a 50mm f1.8 or a secondhand 70-200mm. But I think saving for a 430EX would be a wiser choice, what do you think?

Boy, this sure is an expensive hobby for a poor English teacher like me. :D

grab a speedlite 1st :) a fast lens only won't be in much help if the ballroom is real dark.

and... if you are using
Tvmode and AvMode, your "f-number" or "shutter speed" is blinking, which mean ur setting won't work. it will be under-expose or over-expose.

CutieLynette
11-27-2007, 02:23 AM
grab a speedlite 1st :) a fast lens only won't be in much help if the ballroom is real dark.

and... if you are using
Tvmode and AvMode, your "f-number" or "shutter speed" is blinking, which mean ur setting won't work. it will be under-expose or over-expose.

I took all these shots in M mode, judging the brightness by looking at the light meter. The all looked okay in my little LCD screen and I was happy then. But when I look at the pictures in my laptop I went, "What on earth are these?! Oh my gosh!"

I think I'll buy a speedlite when I've collected my Ang Pow money next year. For the time being, I'd like to play with a 50mm f1.8. :)

Thanks for the advice, guys! Y'all have been very helpful!

Freaky
11-27-2007, 09:01 AM
i find the 400D AWB and exposure not entirely accurate...:(

JackJack
11-27-2007, 11:12 AM
i find the 400D AWB and exposure not entirely accurate...:(

i got that problem in 350D, so I shoot in RAW! :rock:

Jyi
11-28-2007, 12:41 AM
I took all these shots in M mode, judging the brightness by looking at the light meter. The all looked okay in my little LCD screen and I was happy then. But when I look at the pictures in my laptop I went, "What on earth are these?! Oh my gosh!"

I think I'll buy a speedlite when I've collected my Ang Pow money next year. For the time being, I'd like to play with a 50mm f1.8. :)

Thanks for the advice, guys! Y'all have been very helpful!

Don't expect the 50mm f/1.8 to be fun to play with all the time. Most of the time I still prefer my kit lens as it can zoom, so my 50mm stays in the Lowepro.
As for a speedlite, I think I'll get one with my new year money too. But professionals say when you get a speedlite/external flash, it kills the art of learning photography. So I might get a Sigma 70-300mm APO DG Macro...

Jyi
11-28-2007, 12:58 AM
Here are some of my pics taken with my 400D + Kit Lens "stolen" from my new photo site here (http://www.freewebs.com/jyiphotography/).

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/jyiphotography/large.jpg

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/jyiphotography/large12.jpg

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/jyiphotography/large14.jpg

Slight post-processing done with Photoshop CS2

Can post unedited ones, but I'm just lazy to open Photoshop now...

mki88
11-28-2007, 12:59 AM
Don't expect the 50mm f/1.8 to be fun to play with all the time. Most of the time I still prefer my kit lens as it can zoom, so my 50mm stays in the Lowepro.
As for a speedlite, I think I'll get one with my new year money too. But professionals say when you get a speedlite/external flash, it kills the art of learning photography. So I might get a Sigma 70-300mm APO DG Macro...

However, I still find that the 50mm is much much better than the kit lens. Its sharpness and focusing speed is much more better than it. Shooting low light, the kit tends to hunt when the 50mm doesn't. It can go as sharp as Canon L glasses. Most importantly, the 50mm can open wide to include ambient light when shoting in low light situation.

After I got my 50mm, kit lens is kept in bag most of the time. The fixed focal length is definately good at training one's composition skill. Although I've been using quite a numbers of L, the 50mm is still in my arsenal now. It's really a great compact lens in a cheap price.

Jyi
11-28-2007, 01:09 AM
Yes, the 50mm is very useful, especially outdoors and can focus very well in dim light. But when I'm shooting indoors, I prefer to go wide. If I'm in a tight space, I still have to use the kit lens. The 50mm is still an awesome performer. :)

pixelight
11-28-2007, 03:26 PM
As for a speedlite, I think I'll get one with my new year money too. But professionals say when you get a speedlite/external flash, it kills the art of learning photography. So I might get a Sigma 70-300mm APO DG Macro...

nonsense lah! a flash really helps indoors! and with wireless flash (if you buy the triggers next time) you get to explore summore! you can't expect to 'perfect the art of photography' with slow shutter speeds and high ISO can you? u have to invest in a flash. U can use low light photography but a flash makes every picture nice lah (when you bounce)

Freaky
11-28-2007, 03:39 PM
using flash is another can of worms and is another part of photography that needs to be learnt... Whoever said flash inhibits ur learning of a photography is talking rubbish...

Jyi
11-28-2007, 03:51 PM
I guess I remembered wrongly then... Sorry.

udang_kara
11-28-2007, 09:49 PM
just bought 350D. hopefully can learn more from sifoo2 here.:)

motorev
11-28-2007, 11:07 PM
just bought 40D. hopefully can learn more from sifoo2 over there.....

udang_kara
11-29-2007, 07:17 AM
hehe.welcome to da club. :cool:

motorev
11-29-2007, 07:32 AM
?
i belong to both clubs now.... :-)
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Need to buy Batt Grip for my 40D..... PM me your bids. this ia also posted at http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/ftz/index.php

motorev
11-29-2007, 08:22 AM
However, I still find that the 50mm is much much better than the kit lens.It's really a great compact lens in a cheap price.
Agreed in total. Worth buying for those who has not bought one. A good backup lens, at least.

kangxian
12-13-2007, 04:16 PM
Just wondering,
I'm using a Batt grip on my 400D, therefore using 2 batteries.
Each time before a major event, I'll charge them up although it's shown full bar on the LCD monitor. Will this affect the battery life span?
Cos a friend of mine said before, it would be better to have extra batteries, don't charge them before it's finish.
Charging before it's finish will shorten its life span.

Please advise :D

motorev
12-13-2007, 05:04 PM
"Charging before it's finish will shorten its life span."
Not really.......... this doesnt apply to lithium ion batteries, i think.
Old school of thought....
just my 2 sen, please correct if i'm wrong

mki88
12-13-2007, 08:29 PM
Motorev u are correct.

Lithium ion has no memory effect like Nickel Metal battery. That's why it is much expensive and last longer.

Handphone is using lithium ion, how long can the battery last? My battery for my phone is working good more than 3 years.

No worries of the battery life of Lithium ion. Just charge them the day before your event.

jayson85
12-19-2007, 08:50 PM
hihi,
i just brough my 400D last week :partyon:

mki88
12-19-2007, 09:50 PM
Congrats on your new 'baby' and welcome to SA.

newdaddy
12-23-2007, 04:53 PM
I am new user of 400D, I try to shoot pics without flash when possible, and play with ISO and Apeture to get right exposure... but I found many of the image are blur when handheld though I tried to keep shutter speed not less than 1/50. WB also hard to control, especially when the surrounding is yellow or green in colour. :(

mki88
12-23-2007, 06:28 PM
I am new user of 400D, I try to shoot pics without flash when possible, and play with ISO and Apeture to get right exposure... but I found many of the image are blur when handheld though I tried to keep shutter speed not less than 1/50. WB also hard to control, especially when the surrounding is yellow or green in colour. :(

Of course nothing comes easy. Take your time practising and u will realise this is a wonderful SLR.

During my first experience with it, I have the same problem as u too. Takes time to practise and I believe u will get used to it in no time.

The best way to improve is, shoot shoo shoot, then post pictures here for comment. Enjoy shooting. :)

newdaddy
12-23-2007, 07:51 PM
Thanks for the encouragement! Though I get frustrated sometimes when I see the pictures not clear after loading to my PC, but sometimes one or two better ones out of a hundred mk me feel delighted too!:)
Jz wondering whether I should invest more in canon lens or should I go for Sigma or Tamron instead..?
It seems most ppl here has a external flash, maybe I should get one too :D

mki88
12-23-2007, 10:31 PM
To tell u the truth, when the 400D is newly onto my hand, I shoot in Auto. Then I got frustrated cuz my P&S do better. After some practise, then u will know how powerful it can perform.

For lenses and flash, my advice is, practise the foundamental with your 400D first. After u get used to it, den u will know which area of photography u are good at, only decide which lenses to buy. If not, most probably u will be ended up selling the lens as u do not use it often.

Happy shooting and playing with the 400D!! :)

SooHK
12-24-2007, 10:07 AM
Yeah Mki88, great advice. Here is my experience.

When 400D was introduced I bought it in the 2nd week after it launched, used it for my melbourne trip just after 1 week. Thought that it was underexposed thus causing me to worry that my purchase will become a white elephant.

I used "P" mode for almost 6 months before venturing to other modes. And now after 15,000 shots it still amazes me how much detail you can squeeze from it for its price. Used it as often as you can and from there you will know the plus side and also its limit. As the more you used, you will know your limit of handhold "time" and you will start to breach the limit along the way setting new limits every time until you reaches your ultimate "time" for each of your lenses.

I personally took each shutter click as a learning process. As from the time your finger touches the shutter until its recorded in the sensor, all these process can be refined to achieve sharpness in the photo. My first fault I found its the way I press the shutter, this process itself causes the camera to shake, hence I start to experience with ways to press it. Then as more "Click", I found out that the way to hold the camera also will contribute to sharpness. And as I progress the list continues, way to hold lenses, way to breath...even which eyes to look at the viewfinder... I am right handed but I uses my left eyes to look at the view finder, :)

Enjoy this process and you will enjoy the pic that 400D will produce for you....

motorev
12-24-2007, 10:13 AM
yup...
still remember my Photographic Club's teacher's advice to hold your breath when shooting... shooting both camera and guns.....
and u should use your dominant eye,
again for both, camera and guns...

newdaddy
12-24-2007, 12:24 PM
Hi everybody, Thanks a million for sharing your experiences here with me! These give me more hopes about what I can achieve with my camera now!:D
What I gonna do now is Shoot! shoot! shoot!
I viewed mik88 & SooHK photo galery and the photos posted there are very nice!! Hopefully I can be that good one day :)
I like SA, members here are so nice!

mik3
12-26-2007, 02:40 AM
hi guys, got my 400D one month ago. hope to share and exchange knowledge here in SA.

just a newbie question to ask to find out what lens (if possible one only, not sure if there is such "one-lens-covers-all" lens)
that can provide me the convenience to do:-

1. portrait shots (from head & shoulder portrait to waist and above portrait)
2. shoots my toddler running around executing what they do naturally.
3. events like wedding dinner/church reception
4. street photography & random candid shots of ppl.

guyyee
12-27-2007, 04:44 PM
Guys,

After months of research, I have decided to buy the 400D in Kuala Lumpur.

Where do you recommend I buy this?

I am looking to get the kit: Canon EOS 400D Kit with EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 USM

Which shop gives the best deal at the moment?

Thank you, guys!

mki88
12-27-2007, 07:13 PM
hi guys, got my 400D one month ago. hope to share and exchange knowledge here in SA.

just a newbie question to ask to find out what lens (if possible one only, not sure if there is such "one-lens-covers-all" lens)
that can provide me the convenience to do:-

1. portrait shots (from head & shoulder portrait to waist and above portrait)
2. shoots my toddler running around executing what they do naturally.
3. events like wedding dinner/church reception
4. street photography & random candid shots of ppl.

1. Best lens in the range is 50mm f1.8 (RM300)
2. Candid shooting, recommend 50mm f1.8 too. Able to shoot with available lighting and wide aperture.
3. Wedding dinner, to capture dinner, u need wide aperture lens like f2 or lower, too bad 50mm is not wide enough for this. Thus, tamron 17-50mm comes into mind.
4. Candid again, 50mm or other wide aperture lens.

I would recommend Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (RM1300) and 50mm f1.8 (RM300) to fulfill your shooting purpose. Both are sharp lenses that comes in a fantastic price tag.

mik3
12-28-2007, 12:31 AM
mki88,
thanks for the suggestion, actually in my mind i'm also thinking of
the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 as it is sharp and fast. :)

the reason i asked the question is that i wasn't able to justify myself
into getting it without at least some moral support form member of this forum
hehehe... thanks ya..

newdaddy
12-28-2007, 12:47 AM
Yeah! This sounds like what I'm looking for too! I'll add this Tamron 17-50mm to my list...:partyon:

mki88
12-28-2007, 01:00 AM
Buy Buy Buy!!! :run_away:

Very sharp and fast lens with an only downside, slow focusing speed. But for the price u are paying, it is no doubt worth every cents.

mik3
12-28-2007, 10:38 AM
Buy Buy Buy!!! :run_away:

Very sharp and fast lens with an only downside, slow focusing speed. But for the price u are paying, it is no doubt worth every cents.

mki88,
in term of 'slow focusing speed', will it be slower than the Canon EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 II (kitlens for 400D) ?
cos i'm thinking to get that Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 to be the replacement of the kit lens.

newdaddy,
u already created your online photo album or not ?
pm me the link and let me see your nice photos..:run_away:

mki88
12-28-2007, 11:22 AM
mki88,
in term of 'slow focusing speed', will it be slower than the Canon EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 II (kitlens for 400D) ?
cos i'm thinking to get that Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 to be the replacement of the kit lens.

newdaddy,
u already created your online photo album or not ?
pm me the link and let me see your nice photos..:run_away:

I would say the focusing speed is more or less the same with canon kit. In some area Tamron is better anyway. It tend to hunt in low light making me losing some shots during wedding dinner. When lighting is efficient, it is not much of a problem.

Btw, the focusing sound is kinda annoying to me. But u will be impressed by the detail it able to capture. Great piece nevertheless.

newdaddy
12-28-2007, 11:59 AM
mki88,
in term of 'slow focusing speed', will it be slower than the Canon EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 II (kitlens for 400D) ?
cos i'm thinking to get that Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 to be the replacement of the kit lens.

newdaddy,
u already created your online photo album or not ?
pm me the link and let me see your nice photos..:run_away:

haaa... limited nice photo taken as yet! b4 this mostly pics taken r rather not sharp. WB also out most of the time. After joining SA reading through ppl comment got better idea already. So now try to shoot more nice photos and than try on the picasaweb!:D

newdaddy
12-28-2007, 07:35 PM
Dear all, I'm using 400d, now that I plan to get a Tamron 17-50mm f2.8, possibly also want to get a external flashgun, maybe 430ex.. so i hv a question here about taking photos at wedding dinner:

Q. the hotel ballroom normally quite dim, where at f2.8 ISO 400 could still result in slow shutter speed, say 1/10 to 1/30, which may result in hand shake. Which of the following is a better way if I were to tk portrait of those guest?

i) Shoot direct with build in or external flash, but adjust the flash power to suit the lighting condition
ii) Use bounce flash (but hotel ballroom normal hv ceiling high up, say 20 feet or more, stil ok?)
iii) Use of external flash with difuser and shoot direct (many kind of difuser, which is suitable?)
iv) non of the above (if so pls kindly quote a better solution) :redface:

sorry to put up this long question, now after I bought my SLR I day & night think about taking photos... going crazy already...:D

mki88
12-28-2007, 08:31 PM
Dear all, I'm using 400d, now that I plan to get a Tamron 17-50mm f2.8, possibly also want to get a external flashgun, maybe 430ex.. so i hv a question here about taking photos at wedding dinner:

Q. the hotel ballroom normally quite dim, where at f2.8 ISO 400 could still result in slow shutter speed, say 1/10 to 1/30, which may result in hand shake. Which of the following is a better way if I were to tk portrait of those guest?

i) Shoot direct with build in or external flash, but adjust the flash power to suit the lighting condition
ii) Use bounce flash (but hotel ballroom normal hv ceiling high up, say 20 feet or more, stil ok?)
iii) Use of external flash with difuser and shoot direct (many kind of difuser, which is suitable?)
iv) non of the above (if so pls kindly quote a better solution) :redface:

sorry to put up this long question, now after I bought my SLR I day & night think about taking photos... going crazy already...:D


When shooting wedding diner, I will use Manual mode, SS at 1/60 and f2.8, ISO 800. This setting enable capturing the background ambient light.

If u have a external flash, just bounce them. As long as your ISO is high enough, it can record the ambient light. I have shoot in J.W. Mariot ballroom hall, with 40 (even greater) feet floor to ceiling height, yet still bouncing flash to take photo. In my case, no diffuser is used, and I never use one. Just bounce the flash up the ceiling and shoot. Here is the result.

Exif - Aperture priority (usually I'll do in Manual), 1/40sec at f2.8, ISO 800, AWB and handheld.

karheng
12-29-2007, 11:05 AM
WAH!! That is a FARRR... High ceiling!

newdaddy
12-30-2007, 08:49 PM
Thx mki88! I'll try that out when I got a chance to :D
I mentioned ISO 400 is bcoz I hv been practicing with my camera at home and most of the time use ISO 800 or 1600, but the results mostly r a bit underexposed and noisy.. Since than I afraid to use high ISO..( maybe bcoz i don't like to use the build in flash).

mki88
12-31-2007, 09:18 AM
ISO 800 in 400D still very usuable. Just make sure the image is not underexposed, then the noise shouldn't be much of a problem.

forger
12-31-2007, 11:02 PM
hi...
just gotten a 350d a few month back...
have to sell my 6500fd though (miss the 10x optical zoom, movie mode & live view), but a when a man have to grow u really have to grow up....

still a learning.. and shooting..

newdaddy
01-01-2008, 10:12 PM
ISO 800 in 400D still very usuable. Just make sure the image is not underexposed, then the noise shouldn't be much of a problem.

Thx a lot mki88, I really appreciate ur advice :)
Hope to come up with some nice shots in near future and post them here for comment:D

newdaddy
01-01-2008, 10:18 PM
hi...
just gotten a 350d a few month back...
have to sell my 6500fd though (miss the 10x optical zoom, movie mode & live view), but a when a man have to grow u really have to grow up....

still a learning.. and shooting..

Welcome! When I bought my 400d mtns ago I try to look for a live view. Now when ppl pass me their P&S I try to look for a view finder :D

forger
01-02-2008, 11:02 AM
Welcome! When I bought my 400d mtns ago I try to look for a live view. Now when ppl pass me their P&S I try to look for a view finder :D

when i started using digital p&s a couple of year back, i was like that to..:D

either i have to take my time adjusting
or..

or..




40d. heheheh:tongue_roll:

mik3
01-02-2008, 11:18 AM
Welcome! When I bought my 400d mtns ago I try to look for a live view. Now when ppl pass me their P&S I try to look for a view finder :D

wah hahaha.. guess what....
same with me, last week attended a wedding dinner and fren passed me his p&s sony and i was trying to a position my eye to find the view finder.. :P
And also just yesterday, i got back my P&S u700 (after repaired), and when want to test, my hands was like automatic want to align the u700 to my eye to position the view finder.. wahahah... haha... :D
and when test, like not get use to it cos keep on like want to find the adjustment for shutter speed and aperture.. :P

:tongue_roll:

newdaddy
01-07-2008, 04:16 PM
Dear all, I lately encounter a problem. I try to shoot with RAW + L setting with my 400D, trying to get both JPeg & Raw file. But when I load them to PC both of the file shown as JPeg. Eg:IMG_0001, IMG_0001(1)
I tried to shoot RAW only setting which I could get RAW file than.
Does anyone know what's d reason:?

valho
01-07-2008, 04:31 PM
Dear all, I lately encounter a problem. I try to shoot with RAW + L setting with my 400D, trying to get both JPeg & Raw file. But when I load them to PC both of the file shown as JPeg. Eg:IMG_0001, IMG_0001(1)
I tried to shoot RAW only setting which I could get RAW file than.
Does anyone know what's d reason:?

if i not mistaken it depends on how you transfer the file, if direct from camera to pc you'll need to use canon own software. If use card reader can just transfer as it is.

newdaddy
01-07-2008, 07:43 PM
Oh Thanks! I think what u suspect is right bcoz I transfer direct from my cam instead of card reader! and I didn't use the canon software to transfer! heh... will try out again la!
Thx a million :)
:cheers:

mik3
01-08-2008, 12:31 PM
if u shoot with "RAW + L" and use the canon softare to transfer the photos,
u should get filename as
IMG_1249.CR2 (for raw)
IMG_1249.JPG (for jpeg)

xavierchan
01-15-2008, 12:06 PM
Hi there... Canon 350D user here...
anyway, I would like to seek some advices from the sifus here...
I am going to snap photos during my uncle's wedding dinner night, but at the moment, I am using kit lens and 50mm f/1.8 lens only, and I do not own a speedlite as well... so may I know, without speedlite, is that possible to snap a very quality photos by using the default flash and kit lens?

93949697
01-16-2008, 11:16 PM
Hi there... Canon 350D user here...
anyway, I would like to seek some advices from the sifus here...
I am going to snap photos during my uncle's wedding dinner night, but at the moment, I am using kit lens and 50mm f/1.8 lens only, and I do not own a speedlite as well... so may I know, without speedlite, is that possible to snap a very quality photos by using the default flash and kit lens?


me last month also shoot without speedlite in dinner, the results also no so good.

me also wish to know without speedlite, is that possible to snap a very quality photos by using the default flash and kit lens?

newdaddy
01-18-2008, 01:48 AM
I'm also new to digital SLR world, and I did post quite a lot of questions here regarding how to take good pictures in low light condition such as wedding dinner.
well, what I gathered from here is that it would b best if u hv a speedlite bcoz u can either bounce it or attach a diffuser to diffuse light. (as direct flash often give bad results)
Or, if u don't hv speedlite, than u need to hv a fast lens, like lens with f1.2, 1.4, 1.8 for prime lens and f2.8 for zoom lens. All because u need big apeture to capture more lights in low light condition while maintaining shutter speed above 1/60 to avoid handshake.

In the case of Xavierchan, at least u hv 50mm 1.8 which the apeture is wide enough. But u'll find hard to adjust urself when taking group photos. Also bear in mind f1.8 is quite risky in taking group photos bcoz of its very shallow DOP. Meaning the one that u focus can be very sharp but the other members could b out of focus.

For kit lens, wide open apeture at 18mm f3.5 will give u poorer image quality which u might want to avoid. Therefore in this case u might hv to stop down to shoot with smaller apeture such as f5 or above, with high ISO (ISO800 or 1600) and also with direct build in flash. Try to adjust ur flash level and do some test shots, if u find the object too bright than reduce the flash exposure abit until u find them jz acceptable.

It all depends on the lighting condition there so u need to go earlier to test shooting if possible.
One more suggestion is to shoot in RAW, so than u can later adjust the WB, exposure, reduce noise, and sharpen them using image editing software such as canon original DPP which comes together with ur camera purchase. If u hv photoshop would b better. At least those photos that r not too overly and underly exposed can b safe.

finally, if let say the wedding is not held at hotel but at restaurant whereby the ceiling is often not too high up, than u could try to bounce the build in flash as well. (I tried at home, hv white ceiling around 13 feet, set maximum flash exposure on the build in flash and bounce it up with a white card, and the results are not too bad.. )

ShaolinTiger
01-18-2008, 01:53 AM
Actually you need a fast lens (f/2.8 zoom) and a speedlight to get the best results.

xavierchan
01-18-2008, 09:37 AM
I'm also new to digital SLR world, and I did post quite a lot of questions here regarding how to take good pictures in low light condition such as wedding dinner.
well, what I gathered from here is that it would b best if u hv a speedlite bcoz u can either bounce it or attach a diffuser to diffuse light. (as direct flash often give bad results)
Or, if u don't hv speedlite, than u need to hv a fast lens, like lens with f1.2, 1.4, 1.8 for prime lens and f2.8 for zoom lens. All because u need big apeture to capture more lights in low light condition while maintaining shutter speed above 1/60 to avoid handshake.

In the case of Xavierchan, at least u hv 50mm 1.8 which the apeture is wide enough. But u'll find hard to adjust urself when taking group photos. Also bear in mind f1.8 is quite risky in taking group photos bcoz of its very shallow DOP. Meaning the one that u focus can be very sharp but the other members could b out of focus.

For kit lens, wide open apeture at 18mm f3.5 will give u poorer image quality which u might want to avoid. Therefore in this case u might hv to stop down to shoot with smaller apeture such as f5 or above, with high ISO (ISO800 or 1600) and also with direct build in flash. Try to adjust ur flash level and do some test shots, if u find the object too bright than reduce the flash exposure abit until u find them jz acceptable.

It all depends on the lighting condition there so u need to go earlier to test shooting if possible.
One more suggestion is to shoot in RAW, so than u can later adjust the WB, exposure, reduce noise, and sharpen them using image editing software such as canon original DPP which comes together with ur camera purchase. If u hv photoshop would b better. At least those photos that r not too overly and underly exposed can b safe.

finally, if let say the wedding is not held at hotel but at restaurant whereby the ceiling is often not too high up, than u could try to bounce the build in flash as well. (I tried at home, hv white ceiling around 13 feet, set maximum flash exposure on the build in flash and bounce it up with a white card, and the results are not too bad.. )

:) Thanks bro, now I have more idea on how to shoot during the wedding dinner... unfortunately, I am not so soon to get a speedlite or a zoom lens with wide aperture...

so can I assume, tripod will be much useful for me during the photo shooting in the wedding dinner, right? :D that makes me really "looks" like a professional photographer d... :P haha...

Actually you need a fast lens (f/2.8 zoom) and a speedlight to get the best results.

Ya... agreed...

newdaddy
01-18-2008, 10:38 AM
yea, if u use tripod u can slow down ur shutter speed to capture more lights instead of boosting up ur ISO to maximum which can result in noise. but it only limited for u to tk photos when ppl r standing there and waiting for u to say ''cheeese'' :D bear in mind that slow shutter will result in motion blur if u r trying to shoot the walking guest. or maybe u can purposely mk it part of ur composition to include motion blur lor..
most importanly....... leave enough space in ur CF card bcoz taking RAW takes up memory! also fully charge ur battery...:cool:

u can post ur photos here after the wedding and ask for comments.. many sifu here can give u a helping hand:D (but not me la:redface:)

xavierchan
01-18-2008, 10:43 AM
yea, if u use tripod u can slow down ur shutter speed to capture more lights instead of boosting up ur ISO to maximum which can result in noise. but it only limited for u to tk photos when ppl r standing there and waiting for u to say ''cheeese'' :D bear in mind that slow shutter will result in motion blur if u r trying to shoot the walking guest. or maybe u can purposely mk it part of ur composition to include motion blur lor..
most importanly....... leave enough space in ur CF card bcoz taking RAW takes up memory! also fully charge ur battery...:cool:

u can post ur photos here after the wedding and ask for comments.. many sifu here can give u a helping hand:D (but not me la:redface:)
noted... :D
weiks, you are also a sifu lo... you have provided me such useful information that I never got at the moment... now I really have more info regarding what I want d...

mki88
01-18-2008, 12:08 PM
noted... :D
weiks, you are also a sifu lo... you have provided me such useful information that I never got at the moment... now I really have more info regarding what I want d...

Since u have no speedlite, what u can do is to set the aperture as wide as possible, i.e f3.5. No need to worry about the bad image quality as bad quality is better than no quality. Besides, f3.5 isn't really that bad that u can't use. U can still get decent image with this settng.

Also, remember to boost ISO high up to 800 or 1600 to capture enough ambient lights. I have seen some photographers shoot using kit lens in wedding. and the images are acceptable.

The best solution is still speedlite. Best is that u can borrow it from someone and use in the dinner. I don't really believe in using tripod as it limits your moment and angle. Also, slow shutter is seldom use during dinner since it is not the solution.

Btw, well said newdaddy. U have provided very useful informations to our new friend here. :)

Just my 2 cents. Happy shooting wedding. :)

ShaolinTiger
01-18-2008, 12:43 PM
Tripod is pretty useless for event photography..

xavierchan
01-18-2008, 02:19 PM
Since u have no speedlite, what u can do is to set the aperture as wide as possible, i.e f3.5. No need to worry about the bad image quality as bad quality is better than no quality. Besides, f3.5 isn't really that bad that u can't use. U can still get decent image with this settng.

Also, remember to boost ISO high up to 800 or 1600 to capture enough ambient lights. I have seen some photographers shoot using kit lens in wedding. and the images are acceptable.

The best solution is still speedlite. Best is that u can borrow it from someone and use in the dinner. I don't really believe in using tripod as it limits your moment and angle. Also, slow shutter is seldom use during dinner since it is not the solution.

Btw, well said newdaddy. U have provided very useful informations to our new friend here. :)

Just my 2 cents. Happy shooting wedding. :)

but at the moment I don't know any Canon user in Penang... if got pun, not sure whether they got speedlite or not ler... :P haha... headache...

Tripod is pretty useless for event photography..

hm... maybe... :?

newdaddy
01-18-2008, 04:08 PM
Thx Mik88, I wish i could help out the new user here as how u guys help me earlier. sharing is also learning:D

xavierchan, a member here once told me to hold the breathe while pressing the shutter, it helps abit to avoid handshake. also, u can stand with legs slightly wide open to stable urself when shooting (unless u r a girl and wearing mini skirt than not nice lor:run_away:)

xavierchan
01-19-2008, 04:05 PM
Thx Mik88, I wish i could help out the new user here as how u guys help me earlier. sharing is also learning:D

xavierchan, a member here once told me to hold the breathe while pressing the shutter, it helps abit to avoid handshake. also, u can stand with legs slightly wide open to stable urself when shooting (unless u r a girl and wearing mini skirt than not nice lor:run_away:)
haha... luckily I am not a girl...

pejarl2
01-20-2008, 02:42 PM
i juz bought the 350d bout 4month ago and i planned to have a new lens.

what's the best lens to i have due to get the clear and sharp picture.

TQ

mki88
01-20-2008, 02:52 PM
That will depends on your budget and areas of photography. Landscape, wedding, macro, wildlife, street, candid, etc. There are too many good glasses in the market. So u must know what area u are into, and choose the best lens for it.

pejarl2
01-20-2008, 03:31 PM
That will depends on your budget and areas of photography. Landscape, wedding, macro, wildlife, street, candid, etc. There are too many good glasses in the market. So u must know what area u are into, and choose the best lens for it.

MKI88..i already checked out the pictures on ur flickr site.damn nice picture u have there.

may i know what body and lens that u used?

:)

jayhan
01-20-2008, 05:24 PM
just for the idea of a quote, here are samples of images taken with a Canon EOS 350D (also known as Digital Rebel XT).

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/390437553_6ff0d420a8_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/63/211594065_b6855b3ab1_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2210/2091035554_17ea04ae23_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2417/2053572973_3288b4195e_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2182/2194577218_44d7003a39_o.jpg

all images are originally shot and produced by zuan of flickr and his profile can be found here (http://www.flickr.com/people/zuan/)
i find this images very brilliant, and it just shows that the saying "its not a matter entirely on the gear, but the photographer himself" truly reflects in these works

mik3
01-21-2008, 01:40 PM
true true, it is the skills of the photographer that matters..
A photo can even be wonderfully captured if u give an average
point-and-shoot camera to a skillful photographer.

mki88
01-21-2008, 03:57 PM
MKI88..i already checked out the pictures on ur flickr site.damn nice picture u have there.

may i know what body and lens that u used?

:)

Thanks for the kind words. I'm using 400D with 50mm and a Tamron 17-50mm plus a speedlite only.

Jay, that is brilliant works.

93949697
01-28-2008, 06:18 PM
just for the idea of a quote, here are samples of images taken with a Canon EOS 350D (also known as Digital Rebel XT).

all images ...

wow, the photos are very nice ...:rolleyes:
what lens using?

thanks ...:D

jassed
01-31-2008, 09:56 AM
mki88, impressive pics... the tamron 17-50 is definitely my next purchase, once i have the budget..

Anyways, new Kiss Digital X user here. Got my camera a couple weeks ago that comes with the so-so kit lens and a EF55-200 4.5-5.6 II (which is okay actually). Last week i got myself the 50mm 1.8 and has been in love with it ever since. I haven't go out for any shooting coz tied down with work, so i hope i can share some of my pics here once i have the time.

Cheers.

xavierchan
01-31-2008, 03:31 PM
mki88, impressive pics... the tamron 17-50 is definitely my next purchase, once i have the budget..

Anyways, new Kiss Digital X user here. Got my camera a couple weeks ago that comes with the so-so kit lens and a EF55-200 4.5-5.6 II (which is okay actually). Last week i got myself the 50mm 1.8 and has been in love with it ever since. I haven't go out for any shooting coz tied down with work, so i hope i can share some of my pics here once i have the time.

Cheers.
hi jassed, where are you from?

mki88
01-31-2008, 07:11 PM
Thanks for the kind words, jassed. U can do impressive pictures too. :)

Welcome to SA and do share us with your works.

EdwinTan
01-31-2008, 08:11 PM
i just figured it out something, while viewing my pic using exif...

there is Owner name .. for pic taken with 400D while, 350D doesn't have any.

Anyone can clarify this? or is it just me?

jassed
02-01-2008, 12:57 AM
xavierchan, i'm from penang, now studying at PJ.

EdwinTan, i think it has something to do with the canon eos utility software, as it has this option under camera settings where you can key in your name.

mki88
02-01-2008, 12:59 AM
xavierchan, i'm from penang, now studying at PJ.

EdwinTan, i think it has something to do with the canon eos utility software, as it has this option under camera settings where you can key in your name.

Studying in PJ? Haha me too. Maybe we can come out yam cha. :)

jassed
02-01-2008, 01:04 AM
sure, if i have the time to spare from my internship at production house. Damn busy lehh.

xavierchan
02-01-2008, 08:52 AM
xavierchan, i'm from penang, now studying at PJ.

EdwinTan, i think it has something to do with the canon eos utility software, as it has this option under camera settings where you can key in your name.
oh is it? my gf is studying at PJ also, UTAR... *sweat* haha... but she is having internship in Penang right now, so I am also from Penang...

when you come back next time, maybe you can join us for the photo shooting session? This is the chit chat place where we always hang at, http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8514 ... haha...

EdwinTan
02-03-2008, 12:23 AM
xavierchan, i'm from penang, now studying at PJ.

EdwinTan, i think it has something to do with the canon eos utility software, as it has this option under camera settings where you can key in your name.

so, if i were to change the details, how or what or where should i do it?

lopaque
02-07-2008, 08:31 AM
wanna ask about image storage, previously i'm using canon 300D and my image store in folder, mean that cf create a individual folder, but when i'm using 400D now, my image save without folder in CF and when i connect it to pc, it take so long for image to appear and i need to refresh the page to make it appear.

minjeh80
02-08-2008, 02:19 PM
i am a newbie to the DLSR world and currently there's an offer for Canon Eos 400D, but at the same time, there's a similar offer for Nikon D40x, i am at a a cross road here, my friends have been giving me mixed reviews, i just like seek some advice on which one to buy, Canon or Nikon? please help, thanks :)

newdaddy
02-08-2008, 02:36 PM
i am a newbie to the DLSR world and currently there's an offer for Canon Eos 400D, but at the same time, there's a similar offer for Nikon D40x, i am at a a cross road here, my friends have been giving me mixed reviews, i just like seek some advice on which one to buy, Canon or Nikon? please help, thanks :)

anyway both can tk good pictures!:D
the advantage of nikon d40x is better grip and better kit lens. Aslo nikon system tend to give stronger colour.
the advantage of canon 400d is more user friendly, fast focusing, better noise reduction, more choice of lens. (bcause d40x has no build in auto focus motor thus many nice lens cannot b use unless u use manual focus. This is one the reason I choose canon)
It depends which system to want to invest in, in short term u only can affort this 2 model, but later u'll sure upgrade one. thus look into longer term to mk vicer decision.
Is more to the skill than the choice of system that mk good photo.
Welcome to DSLR:D

lopaque
02-08-2008, 04:53 PM
otai2, please help me, i wanna ask about the Cn.F setting....what is good Cn.f setting for 400D,what the common setting that 400D user use for picture style (contrast, saturation, color tone)??

mki88
02-08-2008, 05:41 PM
otai2, please help me, i wanna ask about the Cn.F setting....what is good Cn.f setting for 400D,what the common setting that 400D user use for picture style (contrast, saturation, color tone)??

Cn Function is built to custom user's need. For instant, some prefer half press, some prefer AE focus. It is all up to the user to custom their camera, choose the setting that suits them the most.

For picture style, there is default setting. Just stick to default will do fine. If u are not happy with the setting, u can custom them as usual.

minjeh80
02-08-2008, 07:37 PM
anyway both can tk good pictures!:D
the advantage of nikon d40x is better grip and better kit lens. Aslo nikon system tend to give stronger colour.
the advantage of canon 400d is more user friendly, fast focusing, better noise reduction, more choice of lens. (bcause d40x has no build in auto focus motor thus many nice lens cannot b use unless u use manual focus. This is one the reason I choose canon)
It depends which system to want to invest in, in short term u only can affort this 2 model, but later u'll sure upgrade one. thus look into longer term to mk vicer decision.
Is more to the skill than the choice of system that mk good photo.
Welcome to DSLR:D

so canon 400d has a built in auto focus motor? i see, ok, thanks a lot for the tips :)

lopaque
02-08-2008, 08:13 PM
Cn Function is built to custom user's need. For instant, some prefer half press, some prefer AE focus. It is all up to the user to custom their camera, choose the setting that suits them the most.

For picture style, there is default setting. Just stick to default will do fine. If u are not happy with the setting, u can custom them as usual.

thanks for the respond

what do you mean by half press and AE focus?? which the best??

Picture style : default you mean by Standard right ?

mki88
02-08-2008, 11:15 PM
thanks for the respond

what do you mean by half press and AE focus?? which the best??

Picture style : default you mean by Standard right ?

Half press focusing is default setting, which enable focusing during half press. AE focus enable u to focus when AE buttin is press. It's hard to say which setting is the best. U need to try out and see which focusing mode that u prefer. Each setting has their pros and cons. This is Cn.F no.4, u can try it out.

Normally I'll use Standard for Picture style. What I mean default is the setting that Canon has preset for u.

Please feel free to ask any question. :)

lopaque
02-08-2008, 11:33 PM
thanks mki88, i understand now..thanks again, and one more Q, when is the best time to use AE focus ??

*offtopic: mki88, i really admired all ur shot on you flickr man, we use same camera and ur shot are stunning man..can u be my sifoo?? hehe..

nfariz8
02-08-2008, 11:35 PM
so canon 400d has a built in auto focus motor? i see, ok, thanks a lot for the tips :)

i think all canon lenses has built in motor.. so there is no AF motor in the body.. correct me if i'm wrong guys! :D

mki88
02-09-2008, 12:10 AM
lopaque - Thanks for the kind word. But I can't be your sifu, not qualify, really. We can be friend and share our knowleadge together. :)

AE focus is used when doing pre focusing. I mainly use this when shooting wedding and portrait, which enable me to focus one time and shoot shoot shoot. Under such condition, if I'm using half press, I will need to focus everytime when I shoot, which slow me down. With AE focus, I focus one time, and keep shooting (as long as the subject stays within my focusing point)

Play it around and u will be familiar with the function. :)


nfariz8 - I'm not sure about this but I think that is not correct. Canon DSLR can use all lenses like tamron 17-50 which some Nikon DSLR can't. I think all canon body has built in focusing motor that's why it can use lenses that do not has focusing motor. Anyway, I'm not too sure about this, correct me if I'm wrong.

lopaque
02-09-2008, 12:19 AM
lopaque - Thanks for the kind word. But I can't be your sifu, not qualify, really. We can be friend and share our knowleadge together. :)

AE focus is used when doing pre focusing. I mainly use this when shooting wedding and portrait, which enable me to focus one time and shoot shoot shoot. Under such condition, if I'm using half press, I will need to focus everytime when I shoot, which slow me down. With AE focus, I focus one time, and keep shooting (as long as the subject stays within my focusing point)

Play it around and u will be familiar with the function. :)

oowhh, i see, great, i will try it tommorow morning (follow my mum and dad jogging..haha)...so i need to set my camera to AE focus when i want to use it right ?? Cn.F no.4..that the different between AE lock and AF lock right??

*great thanks mki88, you can be my online tutor..heheh

tengsun
03-14-2008, 12:07 PM
lopaque - Thanks for the kind word. But I can't be your sifu, not qualify, really. We can be friend and share our knowleadge together. :)

AE focus is used when doing pre focusing. I mainly use this when shooting wedding and portrait, which enable me to focus one time and shoot shoot shoot. Under such condition, if I'm using half press, I will need to focus everytime when I shoot, which slow me down. With AE focus, I focus one time, and keep shooting (as long as the subject stays within my focusing point)

Play it around and u will be familiar with the function. :)


nfariz8 - I'm not sure about this but I think that is not correct. Canon DSLR can use all lenses like tamron 17-50 which some Nikon DSLR can't. I think all canon body has built in focusing motor that's why it can use lenses that do not has focusing motor. Anyway, I'm not too sure about this, correct me if I'm wrong.

Mki is right for the modern Canon DSLRs. 50mm f/1.8 is an example besides the Tammy. Cheers.

kenshinx
04-01-2008, 08:37 PM
New 400d user reporting in :) Looking forward to C&C and tips for improvement from the gurus here. Was browsing pics taken from the forum members and they all looked great!

xbadx
04-04-2008, 11:16 PM
just saw a test between 35 1.4L and 50 1.4, hope it can be some reference:) :)

http://lh6.google.com/lxj.bis/R_ZB9gNtKKI/AAAAAAAAAy4/8y56K4CdwvA/s800/35%201.4%20vs%2050%201.4.jpg:D:D

mki88
04-05-2008, 12:37 AM
just saw a test between 35 1.4L and 50 1.4, hope it can be some reference:) :)



The result is not surprising as u are comparing non L with L glass. Which is about 3 to 4 times the prices. U'll get what u've pay. :)

kclau
04-05-2008, 12:47 AM
Xbadx if the sample picture not done by you, give credit to the original owner or from where you quote tht from.:D

newdaddy
04-06-2008, 02:43 PM
just saw a test between 35 1.4L and 50 1.4, hope it can be some reference:) :)

http://lh6.google.com/lxj.bis/R_ZB9gNtKKI/AAAAAAAAAy4/8y56K4CdwvA/s800/35%201.4%20vs%2050%201.4.jpg:D:D

wah.. much sharper on the 35mm L!
scared to see this kind of research! Bcoz this is jz too poisoning :mad: but yet... I stil like to see :D

Leong3513
04-22-2008, 01:22 AM
35mm F1.4L how much?

newdaddy
04-23-2008, 11:06 AM
35mm F1.4L how much?

50mm1.4 about RM1300
35mmL 1.4 about RM4300!!

Leong3513
04-29-2008, 02:02 AM
50mm1.4 about RM1300
35mmL 1.4 about RM4300!!

After compare 50mm F1.8 & 50mm F1.4
I decide buy 50mm F1.8 for me :)

aphis
05-04-2008, 08:09 PM
good evening shutterbugs (esp Canon-niers),
I have a few questions regarding camera servicing dat I need to ask u guys for answers. I have a C350d wit 28-135mm IS
1) in average, how much do I have to spend to service both of these items?
2) where is better to send these to? shud I send them to Canon?

g88
05-04-2008, 08:43 PM
good evening shutterbugs (esp Canon-niers),
I have a few questions regarding camera servicing dat I need to ask u guys for answers. I have a C350d wit 28-135mm IS
1) in average, how much do I have to spend to service both of these items?
2) where is better to send these to? shud I send them to Canon?

Best pls Peremba Square, Canon HQ :D

johnnyzer0
05-09-2008, 04:09 PM
greetings canonites!

i think this is my first time posting here. just a simple question; what is the shutter life for a 400d?

i've googled it, but answers seem pretty vague. some say 100K, and some even gave the range from 100K-150K. and for replacement, does anyone knows how much it'll cost?

thanks in advance

smokio
05-10-2008, 07:55 PM
Can anyone tell me the all High capacity Secure Digital cards 280x speed can use on Canon 400D?i found this on Ebay from this seller.

Item URL: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280224029584

ally9970
05-11-2008, 01:50 PM
another 400D user reporting in, in fact this is my 1st post...

tunjuk ajarku sifu2 semua

huh
06-06-2008, 04:24 AM
hye guys... i would like to ask something here... im on a budget right now and wa thinking of getting 350D as my fist DSLR... ive been using my GF Nikon D40 for quite sometime now and have a minute knowledge about photography..

is getting a second hand 350D is going choice for me? photography is going to be my hobby not something that i will actually going to do as a career... need advices guys..

kalvinkhoo
06-06-2008, 04:27 AM
hye guys... i would like to ask something here... im on a budget right now and wa thinking of getting 350D as my fist DSLR... ive been using my GF Nikon D40 for quite sometime now and have a minute knowledge about photography..

is getting a second hand 350D is going choice for me? photography is going to be my hobby not something that i will actually going to do as a career... need advices guys..

Orh!!
erm...why not u get some money to get 400D id better~
without getting a second hand ~ :)

raymaniac
06-06-2008, 11:36 AM
450D rebellionz reporting in!

Orh!!
erm...why not u get some money to get 400D id better~
without getting a second hand ~ :)

u r living in same area with me...

mopikos
06-17-2008, 12:43 PM
hye,need to know.Can i get 5 pictures on bracketing mode using 400D ? can't figure out how to do 5 spacing bracketing mode, i mean,shooting 5 exposed/underexposed pictures using the bracketing mode.My friends d200 can go to 5.or 400D just can go to 3 pcs per bracketing ?

tytons
06-22-2008, 03:48 AM
does any 1 here have this prob tat i have, when i look into the view finder..the information in there is abit blur..ive tried the +/- thing and the clearest i can get is still abit blur at times..its abit clearer when i look at the information from a certain angle..is it my eye sight?

Jyi
06-22-2008, 11:19 AM
does any 1 here have this prob tat i have, when i look into the view finder..the information in there is abit blur..ive tried the +/- thing and the clearest i can get is still abit blur at times..its abit clearer when i look at the information from a certain angle..is it my eye sight?

From my experience, to adjust the dioptre adjustment power up, you'll have to turn it away from the + sign and towards the - sign. Maybe you should give it a try. :)

tytons
06-22-2008, 03:01 PM
er...meaning turn it downwards?if yes..tried it as well..gets worst

blackburn
06-22-2008, 10:47 PM
Yo bros...

Newbie reporting in... got a new canon 400d kit 18-35mm for RM2080 :P

Another lens canon 75-300mm f4-5.6 III USM for RM850 and a sigma 105mm f2.8 DG macro for RM1480. No speedlite yet. Checked price 430EX for RM999.

I hope I do not bought the wrong lenses as I still very new to DLSR. Previous camera is a Panasonic semi-pro FZ30 sold to one of my fren for RM800. Lucky that can compensate on my lens cost :D

Calling all camera sifos, lenses masters and tai chi masters :P, need some info on those lenses that I got, is it ok or ko? I bought all these lenses from just point of view and experience on my previous camera. I like shooting macro, landscape and wide angle.

Thanks a bunch and luckly not too late that I found this site :angelgrin:

liljames
07-01-2008, 01:14 PM
Yo bros...

Newbie reporting in... got a new canon 400d kit 18-35mm for RM2080 :P

Another lens canon 75-300mm f4-5.6 III USM for RM850 and a sigma 105mm f2.8 DG macro for RM1480. No speedlite yet. Checked price 430EX for RM999.

I hope I do not bought the wrong lenses as I still very new to DLSR. Previous camera is a Panasonic semi-pro FZ30 sold to one of my fren for RM800. Lucky that can compensate on my lens cost :D

Calling all camera sifos, lenses masters and tai chi masters :P, need some info on those lenses that I got, is it ok or ko? I bought all these lenses from just point of view and experience on my previous camera. I like shooting macro, landscape and wide angle.

Thanks a bunch and luckly not too late that I found this site :angelgrin:

add a cheap Canon 50mm f1.8 lens for great potrait shots... ;)

6GDominator
07-04-2008, 01:19 AM
Yo bros...

Newbie reporting in... got a new canon 400d kit 18-35mm for RM2080 :P

Another lens canon 75-300mm f4-5.6 III USM for RM850 and a sigma 105mm f2.8 DG macro for RM1480. No speedlite yet. Checked price 430EX for RM999.

I hope I do not bought the wrong lenses as I still very new to DLSR. Previous camera is a Panasonic semi-pro FZ30 sold to one of my fren for RM800. Lucky that can compensate on my lens cost :D

Calling all camera sifos, lenses masters and tai chi masters :P, need some info on those lenses that I got, is it ok or ko? I bought all these lenses from just point of view and experience on my previous camera. I like shooting macro, landscape and wide angle.

Thanks a bunch and luckly not too late that I found this site :angelgrin:

wah. where you get that kind of price of 400D?? really nice ler..

vash_h
07-05-2008, 10:20 AM
since the launch of 450D, 400D prices has dropped significantly..:run_away:

blackburn
07-08-2008, 07:17 PM
add a cheap Canon 50mm f1.8 lens for great potrait shots... ;)

Hi james, well i'm not so Pro in SLR and all. But at 50mm, my kit lens still can shoot at the focal rite? Really out of budget here :P after all this kind of lenses bought :D

Btw, f1.8 really blurs the background... for the moment I've to shoot using my sigma lens and stand further :P

wah. where you get that kind of price of 400D?? really nice ler..

I bought it at SgWg, the shop around corner at G flr if I didnt remember wrongly. You know, in SgWg really confusing :P

since the launch of 450D, 400D prices has dropped significantly..:run_away:

No going down that much. Dun actually like the live view and 12mb is really big files to keep. 450D cost around 3800++ with kit. Sound kinda expensive for me :rolleyes:

jolipoli81
07-10-2008, 09:22 PM
No going down that much. Dun actually like the live view and 12mb is really big files to keep. 450D cost around 3800++ with kit. Sound kinda expensive for me :rolleyes:

RM3800++!?!? with that amount, enough for u to get a new 40D body already..
btw, its around RM3800-4000 for a new 450D with 18-55 IS kit lens

stephen325
07-11-2008, 11:22 AM
Dear all Canon sifu,

Just got my Canon 450D kit.

Please advise and share what lense is suitable for Macro Shoot?

and... What lense is suitable for landscape shooting ( wide angle )?

:?:?:? there is no right or wrong opinion.

ShaolinTiger
07-11-2008, 12:52 PM
Dear all Canon sifu,

Just got my Canon 450D kit.

Please advise and share what lense is suitable for Macro Shoot?

and... What lense is suitable for landscape shooting ( wide angle )?

:?:?:? there is no right or wrong opinion.

Get yourself a Canon 100mm USM Macro lens and a Canon EF-S 10-22mm super-wide.

stephen325
07-11-2008, 01:39 PM
Get yourself a Canon 100mm USM Macro lens and a Canon EF-S 10-22mm super-wide.

Thanks a lot, do you mind telling me also the best place to these source?
Appreciated.:)

blackburn
07-14-2008, 06:57 PM
Dear all Canon sifu,

Just got my Canon 450D kit.

Please advise and share what lense is suitable for Macro Shoot?

and... What lense is suitable for landscape shooting ( wide angle )?

:?:?:? there is no right or wrong opinion.


You can get Sigma 100mm f2.8 at RM1400++ or Canon 50mm f2.8 at RM999++ :cool:

Wide angle, not sure... havent own one yet :P But the 18-55mm kit lens not bad for wide angle. Usually wide angle lens quite expensive :0

stephen325
07-15-2008, 09:45 AM
You can get Sigma 100mm f2.8 at RM1400++ or Canon 50mm f2.8 at RM999++ :cool:

Wide angle, not sure... havent own one yet :P But the 18-55mm kit lens not bad for wide angle. Usually wide angle lens quite expensive :0

Thanks buddy.........sharing is learning....:P

Jackcpc
07-18-2008, 09:13 PM
i read somewhere in SA that 400D got about 200,000 shutter count life. What happen after that ? camera need to overhaul ?

Please advice

Jack

mki88
07-19-2008, 12:43 AM
i read somewhere in SA that 400D got about 200,000 shutter count life. What happen after that ? camera need to overhaul ?

Please advice

Jack

The shutter 'might' stop suddenly. It has reached it's lifespan. Overhaul like u've said. Need to bring it back to Canon Service Center to replace with a new one which cost u around RM500.

However shutter count for 400D is estimated around 50,000. It also depends on how u use and protect it to reach more than 50k.

Jackcpc
07-19-2008, 09:18 AM
oh thank u !!!

:)

narrowband
07-19-2008, 09:54 AM
I didn't know about the shutter count thing. When shooting low light sometimes I shoot continuous for 4-6 clicks. My friend saw me doing that he said "Like that won't kill your camera meh?". I didn't think it'd do any harm!

xavierchan
07-19-2008, 02:16 PM
I didn't know about the shutter count thing. When shooting low light sometimes I shoot continuous for 4-6 clicks. My friend saw me doing that he said "Like that won't kill your camera meh?". I didn't think it'd do any harm!
i thought it supposed can do that? I mean shoot continuously for 6 shots... haha... seriously, if your friend is right, I really didn't know that will kill the camera... perhaps check with Canon?

ShaolinTiger
07-19-2008, 03:46 PM
It won't kill the camera, what he's saying is you'll run out of 'shutter' faster cos the life is only about 50k for low end camera..

It's not that expensive to change tho so don't be so kiasu and keep shooting.

ekaki
07-21-2008, 06:41 PM
You can get Sigma 100mm f2.8 at RM1400++ or Canon 50mm f2.8 at RM999++ :cool:

Wide angle, not sure... havent own one yet :P But the 18-55mm kit lens not bad for wide angle. Usually wide angle lens quite expensive :0

Hi there,

just bought my Wide angle lens. I found its very nice on a diff perspective. It cost me RM 2380. trust me, you wont regret!!

blackburn
07-30-2008, 08:10 PM
Hi there,

just bought my Wide angle lens. I found its very nice on a diff perspective. It cost me RM 2380. trust me, you wont regret!!


Wow... how wide is wide? I've a 17-40mm f4L. Is this wide?

hafiz.apis
08-01-2008, 03:21 PM
hahaha..This is the 3 months I've been using my 400D. Love it baby. Never regreat buying this camera

ekaki
08-04-2008, 09:15 AM
Wow... how wide is wide? I've a 17-40mm f4L. Is this wide?

Well its depends on what body you are using? 17-40mm F4L will work best with Full Frame. If you are planning to change the FF soon, its worth of investment.

P/s: one of my dream lens too.. ;)

Attached is the sample that I've taken using 10-22mm

orangutan
08-11-2008, 04:42 PM
who know wht is the latest price for 400D and 450D ??

newdaddy
08-11-2008, 04:52 PM
who know wht is the latest price for 400D and 450D ??

microsonic jz quote my fren RM2700 for 450+kit(IS)
400D not sure..

stickyicecream
08-11-2008, 09:16 PM
hello! im a newbie. and bought 350d just for a few month ago. im not quiet satisfied with the AWB. i always shoot outdoor. and i found that its quite hard because the condition always change.

then i thought of replacing my 350d with 400d. my question here, is it will be a worth change? does it will make a big diff? i mean in several aspects like more accurate AWB, better focusing, more sharp, more contrasty or accurate colour? or in a simple word will produce more better quality picture than 350d? or is it the same? or should i invest on buying a better lens?

anybody has this kind of experience? upgrading from 350d to 400?

share with me if u dun mind =)

tq and have a great day ahead =)

newdaddy
08-11-2008, 09:58 PM
hello! im a newbie. and bought 350d just for a few month ago. im not quiet satisfied with the AWB. i always shoot outdoor. and i found that its quite hard because the condition always change.

then i thought of replacing my 350d with 400d. my question here, is it will be a worth change? does it will make a big diff? i mean in several aspects like more accurate AWB, better focusing, more sharp, more contrasty or accurate colour? or in a simple word will produce more better quality picture than 350d? or is it the same? or should i invest on buying a better lens?

anybody has this kind of experience? upgrading from 350d to 400?

share with me if u dun mind =)

tq and have a great day ahead =)

I don't think u should change IMHO. 400D not so much different actually, jz da 10mp compare to 8mp (more pixel = more storage space required), also bigger lcd screen. Image quality more or less should be da same, so as da AWB...if it is ur major concern...
Try to experience with da WB setting like daylight, cloudy, shade for outdoor... if not satisfied use custom WB.
Otherwise shoot RAW, use DPP to play around with WB until u familiar.
Ya, save $ for lens is a better idea. Different lens differ in image sharpness, colour and contrast etc.. survey more & find urself a suitable lens.

Note: I was having the same concern b4, struggled... But after a while I start to understand my cam better & now no more issue.. start to like it more & more now..:)

blackburn
08-12-2008, 09:19 PM
I don't think u should change IMHO. 400D not so much different actually, jz da 10mp compare to 8mp (more pixel = more storage space required), also bigger lcd screen. Image quality more or less should be da same, so as da AWB...if it is ur major concern...
Try to experience with da WB setting like daylight, cloudy, shade for outdoor... if not satisfied use custom WB.
Otherwise shoot RAW, use DPP to play around with WB until u familiar.
Ya, save $ for lens is a better idea. Different lens differ in image sharpness, colour and contrast etc.. survey more & find urself a suitable lens.

Note: I was having the same concern b4, struggled... But after a while I start to understand my cam better & now no more issue.. start to like it more & more now..:)


Me think so too... actually is not the camera but the skills you have...:cool:

nightc
08-23-2008, 05:05 PM
Need some help here.

I'm using 450D and kit lens, sometimes 50mm f/1.8. The problem I'm having is that even though I have AF turn on and it does beep/shows red light (meaning already focus, right) but the photo is not so sharp (kinda blur) when view from pc monitor. Is there any setting I need to check? Any method to improve the sharpness?

Jyi
08-23-2008, 06:31 PM
If you meant on the 50mm f/1.8, it could be because the depth of field at f/1.8 is so thin that the photos could turn out soft. It could also be because the lens is back/front focusing, but that's unlikely. That's what I could think of :)

blackburn
08-23-2008, 07:09 PM
Need some help here.

I'm using 450D and kit lens, sometimes 50mm f/1.8. The problem I'm having is that even though I have AF turn on and it does beep/shows red light (meaning already focus, right) but the photo is not so sharp (kinda blur) when view from pc monitor. Is there any setting I need to check? Any method to improve the sharpness?

Set your aperture to f8-11 should get you overall sharpness :)

g88
08-24-2008, 06:30 PM
Need some help here.

I'm using 450D and kit lens, sometimes 50mm f/1.8. The problem I'm having is that even though I have AF turn on and it does beep/shows red light (meaning already focus, right) but the photo is not so sharp (kinda blur) when view from pc monitor. Is there any setting I need to check? Any method to improve the sharpness?

You might need a tripod & release cable when you set F8 to F11

thomaslee
08-29-2008, 10:40 PM
just bought 450D... hven try it out yet...

orangutan
09-04-2008, 09:22 AM
just bought 450D... hven try it out yet...

wow
mind to tell how much ur 450d?:P

Jing-leBelle
09-24-2008, 10:45 AM
I'm a 400D user for half year liddat..
Still on the way to master it :(
Now using 18-55mm kit lens and 50mm kit lens.

What lens shud i get for my 400D?
perhaps a Canon 55-250mm IS? nid ur opinion..
For your information, i'm still a student..>.<

JasLyn
09-29-2008, 11:08 AM
Bought 450D kitlens @ RM2699 earlier sep08 @ KK (Investline S/B)... got free gift SP & lens hood for that 18-55mm IS cap ayam kekeke... Not a very bad lens... Focal range acceptable (Close shoot)... Aperture also acceptable... low light can be considered but need to use tripod and noise is visible due to forced high ISO...

JasLyn
09-29-2008, 11:12 AM
It won't kill the camera, what he's saying is you'll run out of 'shutter' faster cos the life is only about 50k for low end camera..

It's not that expensive to change tho so don't be so kiasu and keep shooting.

Ahahahaaa... note this a word of a pro!! Get the lesson folks :P

Newly bought 450D will come with firmware version 1.04... Canon has come out for an official Firmware updates that fix the followings:-

Firmware changesFirmware update Version 1.0.9 incorporates the following fixes.

1) Fixes a phenomenon in which AEB (Auto Exposure Bracketing) shooting does not operate normally under specific conditions.
2) Fixes a phenomenon in which the Live View exposure simulation warning indication does not properly display during Live View shooting.
3) Fixes a phenomenon in which images cannot be played back after continuous shooting when a printer is connected to the camera or a video output terminal is used.

Version 1.0.9 firmware is for cameras with firmware up to Version 1.0.4. If the camera's firmware is already Version 1.0.9, it is not necessary to update the firmware.Get it here:-
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/firm-e/eosdigital4/firmware.html

Rastaman
09-30-2008, 10:02 AM
i gave a call to an onlin