Dilemma.........pls help [Archive]

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 09:18 AM

Choosing between Tamron 17-50f2.8 vs Canon 17-55f2.8

Price wise shud go for tammy rite? but i just found tat the quality photo of the tammy taken really xxx....once uploaded into pc, the photo x can see clear, don say zooming in. really unimpress me at all. Havent tried the Canon 17-55f2.8 yet, but will rather spend some money on it before really REGRET on the LENS spending. Or there is better i use back kitty lens & go for 24-70f2.8??

Pls help me.......need all sifu's here guide

noruazumi

11-05-2007, 09:21 AM

most of my shots were taken using Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8.
u can have a look and judge. :)

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 09:31 AM

most of my shots were taken using Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8.
u can have a look and judge. :)

bro, ur camera i think is Nikon rite? btw....ur photo taken nice. maybe is my skill. anyway, i try taken with many diff ISO, shuttle speed,diff angle. :run_away: make me run away from this tammy lens. maybe there is some skill needed? plus....the tammy quite NOISY & tats make me annoying of it.

noruazumi

11-05-2007, 09:33 AM

yeah... i'm using Nikon. if u look for Canon user that use this lens, i think Jayhan use one. :)

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 09:41 AM

yeah... i'm using Nikon. if u look for Canon user that use this lens, i think Jayhan use one. :)

anyone CANON users here?????????? wake up lo:redface: time to log into forum lo:D

StPatrick

11-05-2007, 09:45 AM

mobbes

11-05-2007, 09:47 AM

was just talking with ST about T vs N's f2.8s the other day. One major diff is that the T is very much lighter & manageable .... don't know if there's the same weight diff with the C

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 09:53 AM

No worries brother...

If you have patience, you can try my new coming Canon 17mm-55mm f/2.8 IS USM lens.

If you cant wait, then go for Tammy lor, lots of 2nd hand out there, buy it first then if dont like, sell it off again. :D

bro i bought the tammy de. tats y dilemma now. will going back YL today after work. possibly will gonna top up money change to Canon 17-55f2.8
really dilemma with the photo quality taken by tammy. no wonder many users sell it off(no offence ya) just my ownself problem here :run_away::0

noruazumi

11-05-2007, 09:57 AM

if i have extra money to burn, i would sell-off my tammy too to get Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8. to my untrain eyes, the color produced by the tammy a bit washed-out compared to the Nikkor. but the tammy still a good deal esp. for a industry slave like me. ;)

StPatrick

11-05-2007, 09:59 AM

bro i bought the tammy de. tats y dilemma now. will going back YL today after work. possibly will gonna top up money change to Canon 17-55f2.8
really dilemma with the photo quality taken by tammy. no wonder many users sell it off(no offence ya) just my ownself problem here :run_away::0

Haha...you bought it yesterday at YL ?
I was there at 12pm to try out the 24mm-105mm L lens but it did not look in a good shape to me, scratches everywhere, but i did try out the lens and its quite alrite, but still hesitated to buy as he did not give me a good bargain.

Anyhow, how much is he offering you the 17-55mm IS USM lens?

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 10:22 AM

Haha...you bought it yesterday at YL ?
I was there at 12pm to try out the 24mm-105mm L lens but it did not look in a good shape to me, scratches everywhere, but i did try out the lens and its quite alrite, but still hesitated to buy as he did not give me a good bargain.

Anyhow, how much is he offering you the 17-55mm IS USM lens?

3950 le
kenot bargain. lol......wanna go ma today after work?

Freaky

11-05-2007, 10:40 AM

I tried the Tammy 16-35, returned it... pic quality suxs...

I guess i'm spoilt by L Lenses already...:(

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 10:44 AM

I tried the Tammy 16-35, returned it... pic quality suxs...

I guess i'm spoilt by L Lenses already...:(

bro. how bout the 17-55f2.8 IS ????

cucubud

11-05-2007, 10:54 AM

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 11:04 AM

Your unit is Made in China or Made in Japan one?
Yesterday I tested one (Made in Japan) was very good and sharp.

how the world i dunno got make in China? haha. if there is, im sure i kena con. haha. jooking ya. no la, just the photo quality not the type im looking for. sad sad sad.

Anyone can share their canon 17-55f2.8 IS photo at here? pls ............

ShaolinTiger

11-05-2007, 11:43 AM

I'm using the Tamron too, no problems here :)

Only thing is the AF a bit noisy but picture quality is great, the Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8 is too bulky and heavy to be practical for me.

Waiting for them to bring out a reduced size with VR then I'll consider it.

If you got budget get the Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 IS - great lens even though it's not L.

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 11:45 AM

anyone willing give a help? canon 17-55f2.8 Is photo.....just to compare before i make my final decsion by today before 6pm

I'm using the Tamron too, no problems here :)

Only thing is the AF a bit noisy but picture quality is great, the Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8 is too bulky and heavy to be practical for me.

Waiting for them to bring out a reduced size with VR then I'll consider it.

If you got budget get the Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 IS - great lens even though it's not L.

really ma bro? can show some ur photo at here the tamron one?

got the budget....just wanna spend wise only. worry do wrong step buy the lens

jmaguireokm

11-05-2007, 12:23 PM

hey friend, did u test it at YL before you bought it ???
if on the spot you feel that the quality doesnt match ur taste, why still get it ler ????:P
as far as i know, the lens will give noisy sound when doing a focusing b'coz it doesnt build in USM ma.

if you bought the Canon 17-55mm f2.8 still give u the same thing then how ??? is that your setting on camera or skill set problem ??? :run_away::run_away:

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 12:29 PM

N.Keong

11-05-2007, 12:49 PM

I'm kind of in the same boat as u are...

I bought the Tammy to replace my kit lens, so far... there is not much complain with the pic quality. At least nothing major, that some minor pp can't solve.

My only concern about the Tammy is the AF speed. Which is why I'm saving up for the Canon 17-55mm f2.8 IS USM, though not a L lens. But it has (almost) all the make of a L lens. Minus the red ring, i guess..

cucubud

11-05-2007, 01:08 PM

lens prob la. as i said...i already set many settings shoot in one place & diff place, human face also. when put into pc..try zoom...all pecah.

Can you show us some of your problematic photos?

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 01:17 PM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2194/1867820728_8fb36cfa72_b.jpg

here u are...picture quality bad?good?

iso-400
f2.8
shuttlespped-60
m mode
AWB

noruazumi

11-05-2007, 02:02 PM

i dunno, seems like ok to me.
what is your expectation from the Canon lens? :?

ashrafazlan

11-05-2007, 02:07 PM

nampak ok je, of course iso 400 is going to be noisy :D

ShaolinTiger

11-05-2007, 02:12 PM

Some sample from Tamron, sure - don't be poisoned though. It's not the lens that takes pics ;)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/510983945_cd66f6e6e8.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/498279101_e5db2cc20f.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/208/510971305_b70b3a5362.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1403/561563621_e55b934c5b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1141/1477433079_e8f779ad61.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/142/376634318_cf2d989a13.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/378448918_404fe7f445.jpg

cucubud

11-05-2007, 02:16 PM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2194/1867820728_8fb36cfa72_b.jpg

here u are...picture quality bad?good?

iso-400
f2.8
shuttlespped-60
m mode
AWB

This photo is very good already. What do you want somemore?

StPatrick

11-05-2007, 02:44 PM

HAHAHA.... Shoalin Tiger can take so brilliant photos with his Tammy, so can you...bro swift!!

Just need more practice, lar...;)
Besides, i think you need photo element/ photoshop to enhance some photos too. Its not just only the lens.
You may encounter the same problem using canon lens too.
Slight adjustments are surely recommended.

Besides, you shoot in Jpeg. It will be another story if you shot at RAW.
I learnt this all from the gurus here...haha.
Is this true? :cool:

nairud

11-05-2007, 02:50 PM

i ahve the 17-55/2.8 but so far havent really stress it yet. these are the few pics i have using 17-55. No PP, only framing up and watermarking

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/nairud7418/BAKUC%202007/IMG_1276.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/nairud7418/BAKUC%202007/IMG_1264.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/nairud7418/BAKUC%202007/IMG_1263.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/nairud7418/Sabrina2.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/nairud7418/Sabrina3.jpg

Swift3230

11-05-2007, 03:12 PM

wa.....shoalin tiger. geng la

the 17-55f2.8 also nice taken photo.

well......will decide on myself either keep the lens or get to change by later today

csjian

11-05-2007, 05:24 PM

wa.....shoalin tiger. geng la

the 17-55f2.8 also nice taken photo.

well......will decide on myself either keep the lens or get to change by later today
Hey Bro, as you know lah..all my recent photos was taken with Tammy 17-50 lah... also on JM wedding day which u also ard ya..:D

here my sample:
Tibet (http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4691)
Chiang Mai (http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3732)
Eelaine (http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3216)

from you Photos, may b coz by the light control .what is ur expectation ah?

If you think that Tammy too noises....than Tokina 16-50mm f/2.8 (not sure got Canon mount or not) which Xfreedom tested last saturday.

jackyyong

11-06-2007, 05:13 PM

Hi swift, just happened to bump into your post. I might be able to help u a bit. Like you, I also had the same headache, Tammy 17-50 or Canon IS USM 17-55. In the end, I took the advice of a lot of poisoners here; buy the best lens you can afford! :D I bought the Canon.

Don't get me wrong. The Tammy is also a good lens, in fact, a lot of people claimed that its sharpness beats Canon 17-85 IS anytime! (I do not own the 17-85, so I cannot verify that claim) Anyway personally I do not see anything wrong with your picture there. You may have a look at my gallery at http://picasaweb.google.com/jackyyong. Look at the galleries after my purchase of the lens. (e.g. Merdeka, Melaka, Lake Garden). I even wrote my own review (http://www.jackyyong.com/wp/how-good-is-the-ef-s-17-55-mm-f28-is-usm) of the lens.

The things I love about the Canon 17-55 is the speed and IS. Hey, IS alone is good enough a reason for me to buy it over the Tammy, but that's just my opinion. I have shaky hands! :redface:

3950 le
kenot bargain. lol......wanna go ma today after work?

That price really is too high. Contact this guy (http://www.lelong.com.my/store/yghsin) instead. I bought from him at a much lower price than that. Don't ask me for the price here, it's not fair to the seller if I do.

Anyway there was another guy in SA who has compared these two particular lenses too. Seems that these are very hot lenses in the Canon community. Go here (http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29869&postcount=12) if you want to see it.

nairud

11-06-2007, 11:54 PM

Hi swift, just happened to bump into your post. I might be able to help u a bit. Like you, I also had the same headache, Tammy 17-50 or Canon IS USM 17-55. In the end, I took the advice of a lot of poisoners here; buy the best lens you can afford! :D I bought the Canon.

Don't get me wrong. The Tammy is also a good lens, in fact, a lot of people claimed that its sharpness beats Canon 17-85 IS anytime! (I do not own the 17-85, so I cannot verify that claim) Anyway personally I do not see anything wrong with your picture there. You may have a look at my gallery at http://picasaweb.google.com/jackyyong. Look at the galleries after my purchase of the lens. (e.g. Merdeka, Melaka, Lake Garden)

The things I love about the Canon 17-55 is the speed and IS. Hey, IS alone is good enough a reason for me to buy it over the Tammy, but that's just my opinion. I have shaky hands! :redface:

That price really is too high. Contact this guy (http://www.lelong.com.my/store/yghsin) instead. I bought from him at a much lower price than that. Don't ask me for the price here, it's not fair to the seller if I do.

Anyway there was another guy in SA who has compared these two particular lenses too. Seems that these are very hot lenses in the Canon community. Go here (http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29869&postcount=12) if you want to see it.
YL sells at 3950 because it's a local warranted lens. the one yghsin sell at cheaper price is a grey lens

StPatrick

11-07-2007, 12:00 AM

Hi swift, just happened to bump into your post. I might be able to help u a bit. Like you, I also had the same headache, Tammy 17-50 or Canon IS USM 17-55. In the end, I took the advice of a lot of poisoners here; buy the best lens you can afford! :D I bought the Canon.

Don't get me wrong. The Tammy is also a good lens, in fact, a lot of people claimed that its sharpness beats Canon 17-85 IS anytime! (I do not own the 17-85, so I cannot verify that claim) Anyway personally I do not see anything wrong with your picture there. You may have a look at my gallery at http://picasaweb.google.com/jackyyong. Look at the galleries after my purchase of the lens. (e.g. Merdeka, Melaka, Lake Garden)

The things I love about the Canon 17-55 is the speed and IS. Hey, IS alone is good enough a reason for me to buy it over the Tammy, but that's just my opinion. I have shaky hands! :redface:

That price really is too high. Contact this guy (http://www.lelong.com.my/store/yghsin) instead. I bought from him at a much lower price than that. Don't ask me for the price here, it's not fair to the seller if I do.

Anyway there was another guy in SA who has compared these two particular lenses too. Seems that these are very hot lenses in the Canon community. Go here (http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29869&postcount=12) if you want to see it.

YL sells at 3950 because it's a local warranted lens. the one yghsin sell at cheaper price is a grey lens

He is not in dilemma anymore !! :0
He is now a proud owner of a 40D :P + he kept his Tammy too.
Im sure he will be very impressed, otherwise if he doesn't, we will wait for him to lelong his 40D here. :)

jayhan

11-07-2007, 12:09 AM

i have the tammy 17-50mm f2.8 too
been using it to shoot weddings and also other stuff

but im thinking of "upgrading" to EFS 18-55mm lens and see :) what i can do with it.

to those than think by buying the EFS 17-55mm f2.8 lens and your shots are gonna be uber greater than that of the tamron 17-50mm, my advice to you is - go shoot more with that tammy and practice la.... unless of course u get a uber sucky back focus copy of that lens.

Swift3230

11-07-2007, 12:48 AM

cucubud

11-07-2007, 08:15 AM

but im thinking of "upgrading" to EFS 18-55mm lens and see :) what i can do with it.

This is a very interesting "upgrading" path. I like to see the result.:D

cucubud

11-07-2007, 08:17 AM

Now no more dilemma lieo. My items setup nicely now & happy with it.

400D sold today & get my new 40D match with the tammy 17-50f2.8

I read one of the Digital Camera Magazine, it written Tamron 17-50f2.8 when mount on the 400D is not a good choice. Maybe is myself dilemma.

Anyway, really appreciate ur guys helping around.

Thanks again.......you guys ROCKS

Wow, instead of changing the lens to match the body, you change the body to match the lens.:D

BTW, is it true that the Tamron 17-50f2.8 when mount on the 400D is not a good choice? Why is that so?

jayhan

11-07-2007, 09:13 AM

This is a very interesting "upgrading" path. I like to see the result.:D

Thing is i'm not willing to buy one for RM200.
So would be grateful if I can loan one. hahaha

Swift3230

11-07-2007, 09:16 AM

Wow, instead of changing the lens to match the body, you change the body to match the lens.:D

BTW, is it true that the Tamron 17-50f2.8 when mount on the 400D is not a good choice? Why is that so?

will post n let u see soon ok? the magazine inside my car now le......

yealo...change body lioe. next step lens now....but next year case la. hehe