Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 with built-in motor

[Mavik]

Looks like good news for Nikon D40/x owners as Tamron has refreshed their ever popular 17-50mm lens with a built-in motor.

http://www.tamron.co.jp/en/news/release_2008/0128_a16n2.html
http://blog.nikonians.org/archives/2008/01/tamron_updates_1.html

[ShaolinTiger]

Looks like good news for Nikon D40/x owners as Tamron has refreshed their ever popular 17-50mm lens with a built-in motor.

http://www.tamron.co.jp/en/news/release_2008/0128_a16n2.html
http://blog.nikonians.org/archives/2008/01/tamron_updates_1.html

Ah great news, even for other Nikon body owners as the only problem with this lens is the slower focus than the AFS equivalent, I'm not sure what technology Tamron uses for AF though and if it's equivalent to Sigma's HSM or Canon's USM.

[Peisqo]

nicee ... but no price =/

[ShaolinTiger]

I'd estimate RM1600-1800 street price.

[echoesian]

Shashinki - RM1350 ??

[noruazumi]

GREAT NEWS... prolly ordering one very soon-ish! :cool:

[echoesian]

Can any sifu here comment about the quality of this lens compare to Sigma 18-55 HSM??

[noruazumi]

Can any sifu here comment about the quality of this lens compare to Sigma 18-55 HSM??
actually you can use our Search function to search for any info that may have been posted previously.
since i got nothing to do now, so i did a search and you can see this link. (http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/search.php?searchid=203597)
hope it will help. :)

[clemong888]

good news indeed. hopefully the af will be faster.

[iamyuanwu]

I suspect the AF motor is similar to the Canon mount one.

I'm just wondering, will AF accuracy increase? Or is the AF motor going to create more back/front focusing issues?

[ShaolinTiger]

I suspect the AF motor is similar to the Canon mount one.

I'm just wondering, will AF accuracy increase? Or is the AF motor going to create more back/front focusing issues?

Well from what I understand, having the motor in body would give far more accurate focusing as the lens would be focusing using it's internal mechanism, not using the camera focusing motor which might not be quite aligned with the lens.

I'm not entirely sure tho.

[shutterbug]

So the rest of the spec remains and the only change is that it has an in-built motor? Is that correct?

[echoesian]

Has anyone have experience ordering this lens from Shashinki ?

[Alan_drg]

Shashinki owner KKK have personally tested the new lens and said the AF focus is slower than the old version but still good buy for D40/X & D60 owner as have built in motor

[echoesian]

How is it compare to Sigma 18-50 HSM which has the MACRO ability

[noruazumi]

Shashinki owner KKK have personally tested the new lens and said the AF focus is slower than the old version but still good buy for D40/X & D60 owner as have built in motor
SLOWER?! :rolleyes:

[xavierchan]

ya, I heard of that before also, but is it confirmed slower than those without built-in AF motor?

any other review other than Shashinki's one?

[juan]

good news for d40 user

[gr2k]

price for the A16N II is still RM 1,350 at ShaShinKi.com..

AF is slightly quieter than the old one (on D200 body)

AF is approx 1/2 speed of the old one (on D200 body)

bottom line, get the old one...unless you're on D40/x or D60...everything else is the same..it still has the same back/front focus problems if you get a bad copy..and it still works fantastic (near AF-S 17-55mm optical quality) if you get a good copy..which means they haven't really up their QC

[project-o]

I guess QC is still a problem. I've been reading so many different experiences and responses on this model of lens.
price for the A16N II is still RM 1,350 at ShaShinKi.com..

AF is slightly quieter than the old one (on D200 body)

AF is approx 1/2 speed of the old one (on D200 body)

bottom line, get the old one...unless you're on D40/x or D60...everything else is the same..it still has the same back/front focus problems if you get a bad copy..and it still works fantastic (near AF-S 17-55mm optical quality) if you get a good copy..which means they haven't really up their QC

[snapshots]

i have the A16N II. Been getting f-- at times. Overall,i'd rate it a wonderful piece to have and am satisfied with the performance .Guess the cons are acceptable for lens at this price.

[gr2k]

I guess QC is still a problem. I've been reading so many different experiences and responses on this model of lens.

i guess those who write good reviews got a good copy, those who write bad reviews got a bad copy

though focus errors are a quite common for all 3rd party lenses...(even sigma/tokina/cosina etc)...so get your copy focus tested at the shop before buying ;)

after all you ARE paying only a fraction of the Nikkor variant..i'd rather pay thousands less and spend a little time doing some focus tests..the quality is superb with a good copy

[jameslow]

saw some shops selling this tamron with built in motor cheaper than the older version... :(

[xavierchan]

saw some shops selling this tamron with built in motor cheaper than the older version... :(
because the older version is better than the new version... :P haha...

[jameslow]

because the older version is better than the new version... :P haha...

i second that... ;) luckily i still keep it :)

[gr2k]

i second that... ;) luckily i still keep it :)

the newer version is probably dedicated only to D40/x/60..

the older version is still better/faster and its no longer in production (logically)..

[xavierchan]

the newer version is probably dedicated only to D40/x/60..

the older version is still better/faster and its no longer in production (logically)..
yes, true! so for those who already own a body with built-in AF motor, I think buy the old version is better...

[liong]

Meaning to say,there's no place to buy Tamron 17-50mm without built in motor in market loh?:(

[jameslow]

Meaning to say,there's no place to buy Tamron 17-50mm without built in motor in market loh?:(

check with your local seller, should have old stock. ;)

[dude]

Hi guys, been dwelling to buy a dslr+lense+flash and my preference is D80+tamron 17-50mm+sb600.

Been reading that the tammy 17-50 is a good lense, I wanna potraits and landscape. This will be my starter kit.Question is,where can i buy the old versionof the tammy?What is the actual name that i can search?Thanks in advance guys.:)

[flasher]

I have the motor version using on D80. How to get rid of that focus hang F-- problem? I hate it when it happens during critical moments.

Other than this the lens is pin sharp and wonderful. Focusing is quite speedy though some say the motorless version is faster maybe they use on high end body.

[hajime]

Hi guys, gonna purchase this lens later.

How to know whether a set is grey or not?

Malaysia warranty cover how many years?

See the warranty card color like nikon dslr?

:P

[jameslow]

Hi guys, gonna purchase this lens later.

How to know whether a set is grey or not?

Malaysia warranty cover how many years?

See the warranty card color like nikon dslr?

:P

very simple, if grey set means grey colour... :P

just kidding... where would you buy from? if from the camera shops normally will provide you the valid international warranty card with company stamp and a proof of official receipt of that shop, thru my experience, grey set won't come with warranty card or without International warranty written on the card. Please check with the shop and ask them to clarify, you have the right to ask.

[hajime]

Haha got my lens di. It's 'parralel import' not grey...:? It's made in japan and all manuals/warranty card is in Japanese so I guess it's as grey as it can get :redface:

Anyway, seems like a great lens, focusing is fast and sharp. But, Nikon D90 users beware, though not a major issue, still, it bugs me...

The Tamron 17-50 with built in motor wont focus properly in Liveview mode!! :mad: Haha, yeah i know we seldom use live view but still its a bug.

Was fiddling with it with my friends and found out this problem. Some people are also discussing it in the dpreview forum: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=29286368

So, if you happen to own the D90 and plan to buy this lens, here's the heads up. :(

[ShaolinTiger]

Parallel import - grey set - water goods - all means the same thing la.

[Peisqo]

Haha got my lens di. It's 'parralel import' not grey...:? It's made in japan and all manuals/warranty card is in Japanese so I guess it's as grey as it can get :redface:

Anyway, seems like a great lens, focusing is fast and sharp. But, Nikon D90 users beware, though not a major issue, still, it bugs me...

The Tamron 17-50 with built in motor wont focus properly in Liveview mode!! :mad: Haha, yeah i know we seldom use live view but still its a bug.

Was fiddling with it with my friends and found out this problem. Some people are also discussing it in the dpreview forum: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=29286368

So, if you happen to own the D90 and plan to buy this lens, here's the heads up. :(

What do u mean by wont focus properly ? Slow ? Not focusing at all ? Focus wrongly ?

Live view focus is memang slow no matter what lens u use

[Spearosteam]

Haha got my lens di. It's 'parralel import' not grey...:? It's made in japan and all manuals/warranty card is in Japanese so I guess it's as grey as it can get :redface:

Anyway, seems like a great lens, focusing is fast and sharp. But, Nikon D90 users beware, though not a major issue, still, it bugs me...

The Tamron 17-50 with built in motor wont focus properly in Liveview mode!! :mad: Haha, yeah i know we seldom use live view but still its a bug.

Was fiddling with it with my friends and found out this problem. Some people are also discussing it in the dpreview forum: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=29286368

So, if you happen to own the D90 and plan to buy this lens, here's the heads up. :(

Yes. At 24mm and above, Focusing ring turn to nearest end and keep wondering there. Not only this lens, I heard few other lenses having issue of this with D90 Live View. Anyone kind to share?

[hajime]

Yup, just as Spearosteam said, after 24mm it will duno doing what there zzt zzt zzt... then totally refuse to focus and give the blinking red focus square.

Aigh, i've sent some mails to tamron and nikon... duno will they read their inbox... or do anything about it hah.

[Spearosteam]

Yup, just as Spearosteam said, after 24mm it will duno doing what there zzt zzt zzt... then totally refuse to focus and give the blinking red focus square.

Aigh, i've sent some mails to tamron and nikon... duno will they read their inbox... or do anything about it hah.

Ji, Please update me about this. PM me if you got reply from them. I wondering how photojournalist use this live view above their head to shoot if it can't focus.

[hajime]

Hah, what you know, they replied. The reply is as expected... sigh...

Here is tamron reply... little little ray of hope... either they really gonna check... or just ignore... who knows...

Thank you. We are investigating this issue. Please be patient for an answer. You can check our website or feel free to contact us again in the near future,

Regards,

Tamron USA

Here is Nikon reply :mad:

Dear Alex,

Thank you for contacting Nikon Technical Support. Unfortunately we cannot comment on problems being described in a 3rd party forum. If they are having problems with their camera they should contact us directly.

Thanks for using Nikon products!

Nikon Inc. (USA) Support / Service
http://support.nikontech.com

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...If they are having problem with THEIR camera... WTF, we are using YOUR NIKON DSLR. :smashfreak:

Sheesh, I'll post ur friggin reply wherever I like, sue me :P

Thanks for using Nikon products! :mad:

[Spearosteam]

Hah, what you know, they replied. The reply is as expected... sigh...

Here is tamron reply... little little ray of hope... either they really gonna check... or just ignore... who knows...

I think not Tamron problem. Maybe other lens (unless Nikkor) may have this live view focusing problem too. At the end, third party lens makers may give announcement: Our certain certain lenses may have compatibility issue with D90 live view. Problem solve

Here is Nikon reply :mad:



...If they are having problem with THEIR camera... WTF, we are using YOUR NIKON DSLR. :smashfreak:

Sheesh, I'll post ur friggin reply wherever I like, sue me :P

Thanks for using Nikon products! :mad:

1. SUE ME. "don't do it", not worth. Anyway thanks for sharing and I think nikkor lens should have no problem

[hajime]

Haha yeah nikkor lens sure no prob lar.

Thing is the tammy 17-50 focuses just fine in Nikon D300 bodies, but not in D90 bodies. So its evident its a firmware issue. They have the power to fix it but they shrug it off just like that, either that, or it's the incompetent guy who knows nothing about camera, firmwares, etc. Bet he dint even click on the link I provided, haha. Blind accusations!! :run_away:

[Spearosteam]

1. Hand help or tripod option in D300 LV. You are right it must be firmware that Nikon don't want to give to D90.
2. Bad news for 17-50 A16 DiII Tamron user but good news for any non-motor lenses will have no LV issues. No wonder old 17-50 so laku now.
3. My nikkor 50mm 1.8 works excellently in LV. Got one lens can do the work some more face detect ok lah.

[bodyshots]

yeah, I have the version w/o motor. So far no problems with AF in liveview.

I didn't manage to find no motor version in shops in KL/PJ. If you happen to go to Bangkok, go to Niks Thailand at Silom. I got mine from there about 1 month ago. 13,000 Baht only, and can get 7% VAT refund some more. But made in China la, which I think is not a problem.

[Spearosteam]

You are lucky to have one. It's good lens.

[filidon]

yeah, I have the version w/o motor. So far no problems with AF in liveview.

I didn't manage to find no motor version in shops in KL/PJ. If you happen to go to Bangkok, go to Niks Thailand at Silom. I got mine from there about 1 month ago. 13,000 Baht only, and can get 7% VAT refund some more. But made in China la, which I think is not a problem.

Walaoeh...tammy got made in China one ?:?

[bodyshots]

Sorry, ASSEMBLED in China :P
Made where I dunno la, prob Japan.